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To: Roscoe
You're avoiding the real issue and want to nitpick over details before establishing principles. I'll answer on voting after you make your basic position clear.

Can you agree that our rights to life, liberty & property are self evident, natural, and inalienable?
167 posted on 10/18/2002 10:12:46 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Intellectual honesty has bever been one of Roscoe's strong points.

Voting isn't a right. It never was. Voting is a state granted privilege. The state decide votes and who doesn't. Rights belong to everyone. Citizens in other countries are not permitted to vote in our elections. Yet, citizens in other countries have the right to live. Voting is a privilege. Living is a right.

The rights to life, liberty, property, self-defense, procreation, religion, etc. are not contingent upon the existence of state. Rights exist whether or not there's a state. One doesn't have to ask permission to exercise one's rights. If one has to ask permission then it isn't a right.

190 posted on 10/19/2002 1:08:42 AM PDT by Alan Chapman
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