Tribal Fare-The Nugents are not only good cooks, they're a spiritual phenomenon

NRO ^ | May 17, 2002 | James A Swan

[warchild9]

See my above. It's a common misperception among conservatives, this confusing a respect for life with equating human life with animal life. (Conversely, libs denigrate the killing of unborn humans with live animals.) My attitude is formed by a respect for all forms of life, and I take as little as possible without becoming a Jain.

[warchild9]

I'm an ex-hunter, and ate everything I killed. However, I was in the field to KILL, as is every hunter. I enjoy the forest much more now that I mean no harm. Except to mosquitoes and chiggers.

[warchild9]

I've always thought there'd be a lot more vegetarians if they'd only visit a slaughterhouse (as I have). I've just killed just about anything you can name. Been there, done that, learned my lesson.

[Physicist]

My attitude is formed by a respect for all forms of life

Based on what principle? Why is killing animals wrong, but not plants? Why favor a sponge over a more complex and mobile sunflower?

[warchild9]

I'll restate: It's like he has to live like, etc. My rhetoric stands corrected. Now, calm down.

[Dimensio]

Oh, and I don't hate meat-eaters. Mrs. Warchild isn't a vegetarian. You're reading comlib sympathies into a discussion with a person who follows St. Francis's precepts.

You must be mistaken. It's been well established through unsupported assertion that all vegetarians are human-hating PETA psychopaths. You should read FR more, there are people here who know a lot more about vegetarianism than you do, even though they themselves are not vegetarian and likely have never met anyone who is.

(Note: The above is sarcasm and I really don't like that this disclaimer is necessary, but it is).

[Physicist]

There's nothing wrong with being a vegetarian. It's the sanctimonious anti-carnivore spleen venting we can do without.

[Physicist]

I've just killed just about anything you can name. Been there, done that, learned my lesson.

I see. Nobody reviles cigarettes and smokers like a former smoker.

[Hugin]

So does your antipathy to hunters extend to fishermen as well? Or is it only warm fuzzy animals that you object to killing?

Also, why would you wish more animals to die a slow cruel death that benefits nobody, rather than a fast one that provides humans with sustainence?

Finally, if you care about wildlife in general, you should support hunting. Hunting puts econonmic value on wildlife habitat, which benefits all wildlife. The fact that there are more whitetail deer, wild turkey, elk, etc. in the country now than ever before (about 20 times as many as 100 years ago) is the direct result of the work of hunters. And the improvements made to habitat by hunters helps non-game species as well. Compare that to eating soybeans, which require removing habitat and killing thousands of animals for each acre planted. Just becasue vegitarians don't see or take respnsibility for their gutpiles does not mean they don't exist.

[MissAmericanPie]

I was raised this way, at seven I was removing the heads of chickens, by nine I was carrying buckets of intestines away from the calf or pig that was being dressed out, or helping to scrape pork skin.

It was just part of farm life, all families engaged in providing their own meat, fruit, preserves and veggies, swapping out canned goods and meat with other farm families. No one thought a thing about it and children were expected to learn and do their part. While I am perfectly happy now to buy my food at the grocery, I look back and miss the ability to be that self sufficiant, I do not miss the hard work though.

[warchild9]

NO offense taken. I doubt anyone here knows much more about vegetarianism than myself. What they do know is that vegetarianism threatens their self-image as a pistol-packin', meat-eatin', gun-totin' Republican-Who-Beats-Up-Fey-College-Types-For-Fun. I'm an anti-abortion, gun-lovin', Reagan-supportin', ex-theology student who discovered St. Francis and changed in a lot of ways.

[Dimensio]

My comments were based on observations of other FReepers making general statements accusing anyone (and I mean absolutely anyone) into vegetarianism of being a fanatical PETA supporter.

[VOA]

Kill It and Grill It

This is great...it's only May and my XMAS gift for my brother has been found.

[warchild9]

My antipathy is towards hunting, not hunters. Another common misperception. I loathe the act, not the actor. And I'm actually sort of sad when I meet a hunter, and compassion isn't one of my strengths.

[AAABEST]

Don't eat 'em and don't wear 'em.

That's your problem as I never met a healthy looking vegen in my life. We're not herbivores we're omnivores. In fact, one reason for the success of our species is because our stomachs shrank as we became efficient at nourishing ourselves by making meat a major part of our diet.

Truth is (although all vegens deny it) you can't get all of the aminos, nutrients and trace elements with an all vegetable diet nearly as efficiently as if you ate meat.

Hunting is killing for fun, and killing for fun is sick.

Well, nice to see that you think 30 some-odd million citizens are "sick". FYI, without all of these "sick" people running around, our wildlife management would be a total disaster.

BTW, I don't hunt animals anymore, I just hunt for self righteous stupidity on internet boards.

[Hugin]

I've always thought there'd be a lot more vegetarians if they'd only visit a slaughterhouse (as I have).

Or more hunters. I agree stockyards and slaughterhouses are pretty replulsive. I actually wish I could avoid store bought meat altogether, but for now since I live in the city I can only provide a portion of my meat through hunting and fishing. But I do supplement my scavenger flesh with predatory fare as much as possible.

[kapn kuek]

Ted Nugent ROCKS! His wife is a babe, saw her last nite on Hannity and Combs.

[warchild9]

I weigh 175 pounds, and with an advanced martial arts belt, could probably kick your hinder. I've been a vegetarian for almost twenty years, and am sick 1/10 the time as the carnivors around me. Now, if I could only kick this sweet tooth!

[gwynapnudd]

Ted Rocks!

I notice he doesn't have any recipes for Mountain lion and Bear in the cookbook. Ted, Ted, Ted! You are ready to take the next step buddy.

Real preditors eat other predators!