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GERMANS PLAN TO CHARGE SEPT 11 SUSPECT ARRESTED IN HAMBURG
ASSOCIATED PRESS WORLDSTREAM | MAY 17, 2002

Posted on 05/17/2002 5:32:38 AM PDT by Wallaby

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German prosecutors say they plan to charge Sept. 11 suspect arrested in Hamburg

Associated Press Worldstream
May 17, 2002 Friday 5:15 AM Eastern Time

BERLIN

G erman federal prosecutors plan to present charges this year against a jailed Moroccan man they accuse of controlling an account used to bankroll several of the Sept. 11 plane hijackers, a spokeswoman said Friday.


German federal prosecutors have alleged that Mounir El Motassadeq had close contact over a period of years to several men in the Hamburg terror cell, including suspected ringleader Mohamed Atta.
Mounir El Motassadeq, arrested in Hamburg last November, is the only suspect held in Germany with a direct link to the group accused of the attacks on Washington and New York.

German federal prosecutors have alleged that he had close contact over a period of years to several men in the Hamburg terror cell, including suspected ringleader Mohamed Atta. He had power of attorney over hijacker Marwan Al-Shehhi's bank account in the north German city, into which "large sums" were regularly paid from May to November 2000, prosecutors say. Prosecutors have said the account he controlled was used to finance Al-Shehhi and other members of the terrorist group, including Atta and hijacker Ziad Jarrah. Funds were used to support Al-Shehhi during his stay in the United States and to pay for his flight school in Florida, the prosecutor's office said.

A spokeswoman for federal prosecutors, Frauke Scheuten, said the arrested man would be charged sometime this year. She refused to give details, saying the investigation was continuing. It was unclear when he might go on trial.

El Motassadeq studied at Hamburg Technical University, the school attended by Atta and Al-Shehhi. For more than 18 months in late 1990s, he worked as a cleaner at the city's airport without arousing any suspicion, airport officials have said.

Scheuten refused to comment on a report in this week's edition of Der Spiegel magazine that German investigators found evidence linking the Hamburg terror cell to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network - a connection German authorities have said they cannot confirm.

During the search for bin Laden, Afghan police found a letter from the Hamburg technical school to Al-Shehhi informing him that his enrollment was canceled because he failed to attend classes, Der Spiegel reported. Investigators believe the letter, which was handed over to German diplomats in Kabul, indicates that the Hamburg cell kept people higher in the command chain in Afghanistan informed about its activities in Germany, the report said.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: alqaidah; mohamedatta; mounirelmotassedeq

1 posted on 05/17/2002 5:32:38 AM PDT by Wallaby
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To: Wallaby
I saw a program on Discovery a couple of weeks ago, about a bank robbery in Germany in the early 90's (I think) where they held the people in the bank hostage for several hours, terrorizing them by holding guns to their heads and pretending to shoot, but somehow the robbers escaped. It turns out they had dug a tunnel from another building across the street nearby, under the street and up to under the bank. They escaped through that tunnel. It was an elaborate plot that took months of digging. Of course, the dumbasses were easily tracked after the police found that the building where the tunnel began was leased by one of the robbers using his own name. They caught all the robbers (Surprise, surprise! they were Arabs from North Africa) but were unable to find most of the money that was stolen from the bank.

There are two points to telling this story. The first is that I'm convinced that these guys may have been part of a terrorist organization and that the missing money may very well have been used to fund terrorist activities. I mean, why would 3 or 4 guys make this elaborate and well-executed plot to rob this bank, just for their own sakes, and where is the missing money?

The other point is more relevant to this article. After all these thugs did, stealing all that money and terrorizing the hostages for hours, what do you think happened to them? In the U.S., they would have spent the rest of their lives behind bars. In Germany, they received prison sentences ranging from TWO TO TWELVE YEARS!! Two to twelve lousy years!! I realize that in Germany, a twelve year prison sentence really means twelve years, not three or four like it would here, but for the love of God!! For their heinous crime, they got 2 to 12 lousy years!!

Just something to think about when contemplating what might happen to this 9-11 suspect if he's convicted of anything. Don't expect great things.

2 posted on 05/17/2002 7:38:15 AM PDT by wimpycat
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To: Wallaby
bump
3 posted on 05/17/2002 7:43:34 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Wallaby
Great news and (as usual) nicely formatted too. BUMP!
4 posted on 05/17/2002 7:45:43 AM PDT by Registered
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To: wimpycat
Now don't get too excited or you will have a heart attack over the "life sentences" (i.e. no possibility of parol for ten years) regularly handed out in Canada. My only conclusion is the life must be real short up in Canada.
5 posted on 05/17/2002 8:40:33 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: Registered; VOA
Thanks for the bumps. I was beginning to think my threads were like trees falling in an uninhabited forest.
6 posted on 05/17/2002 12:34:29 PM PDT by Wallaby
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To: Wallaby
Thanks for the bumps.

Your current post is a good one.
But I am wondering about another German trial.
I think that about a month ago I heard on talk radio (Dennis Prager? Michael Medved?)
that Germany was conducting a trial of some Islamic terrorists that had planned to
blow up Notre Dame in Paris.

I've not heard even a whisper more about this?

Got any info?
7 posted on 05/17/2002 5:10:53 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA
Where are all the "peaceful" Muslims in America. We've got plenty of soap boxes ... they should be denouncing these rediculous acts of terrorism. We need to see American Arabs making citizen's arrests! We need to hear from local Law enforcement that the collaborators are being rooted out by fellow American Arabs. Even if there are only a few extremists in each city in America. We know they are there, and Arab Americans know who they are. The country cannot stand to see the left defend people who won't defend themselves.
8 posted on 05/17/2002 5:11:50 PM PDT by God-fearer
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To: God-fearer
Where are all the "peaceful" Muslims in America.

Your views are in harmony with mine, post 9-11.

I have worked with a number of quiet, peaceful Muslims in academia.
But now, my trust level is VERY low.
I have my litmus test (which I'll recite again at risk of boring the forum):
I'll feel a lot better about the general Muslim-American community when I see
Attorney General John Ashcroft announce numerous arrests made of sleeper agents
thanks to the voluntary and enthusiastic help of Muslim-American informants/witnesses.

Sad to say, I don't think this day shall EVER occur.
9 posted on 05/17/2002 5:28:05 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA
Here's are two excerpts from the Washington Post:
With its single spire, the Gothic Cathedral of Notre Dame, once the tallest building in Christendom, has dominated the skyline of the French city of Strasbourg for centuries. On Dec. 23, 2000, the marketplace beneath the cathedral was bustling with shoppers and tourists, and the scene was captured on video by a group of men believed to be Algerians who had traveled by car from Germany.

"This cathedral is God's enemy," an Arabic speaker said on the shaky 20-minute video, which also recorded jihad battle songs on the car's cassette player as the men allegedly planned a bomb attack on the marketplace. "Here we see the enemies of God as they stroll about. You will go to hell, God willing."

The video captured the group's final preparations to set off a bomb eight days later, during New Year's celebrations, and unleash what could have been one of Europe's deadliest terrorist attacks, according to German police and prosecutors. An intercepted phone call between one of the men seeking more cash and the group's alleged leader, who was based in London, tipped British intelligence to the plot, according to a report by Italy's anti-terrorist police.

The "Five Linked to Al Qaeda Face Trial in Germany; Prosecutors Focus on Alleged Bombing Plans," Peter Finn, Washington Post Foreign Service, A SECTION; Pg. A13; April 15, 2002, Monday, Final Edition, Washington Post


The trial of five Algerian men accused of planning to bomb a central marketplace in the French city of Strasbourg as part of an al Qaeda plot in December 2000 began chaotically here today when one of the defendants had to be removed from the courtroom after shouting abuse at his codefendants and a panel of five judges. "

They are all Jews," shouted an increasingly agitated Lamine Maroni, 31, who allegedly flew to Germany from Britain on Dec. 5, 2000, to participate in the attack planned for New Year's Eve, when the streets would have been crowded with revelers. "I don't need a defender, God will defend me." ...

... In one of the first major trials in Europe of a terrorist cell linked to the al Qaeda network, Maroni, Beandali, Fouhad Sabour, Salim Boukari and Samir Karimou are accused of forming a terrorist organization, planning to cause an explosion, plotting to commit murder, falsifying documents and various weapons charges.

All five men had trained at terrorist camps run by Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan...

The trial, projected to last a year, could open a window on the al Qaeda network in Europe...

"Algerian Accused In Bombing Plot Ejected by Judge; Defendant Disrupts Trial in Germany ," Peter Finn and Erik Schelzig, Washington Post Foreign Service, A SECTION; April 17, 2002, Wednesday, Final Edition, Pg. A08 .
10 posted on 05/17/2002 8:29:58 PM PDT by Wallaby
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To: VOA
FRANKFURT, May 7
One of four Muslim militants on trial in Frankfurt for allegedly plotting a bombing in France was expelled from court Tuesday until further notice for refusing a body-search.

Lamine Maroni, who in past hearings had been ejected for disturbing proceedings, was made to undergo the search for safety reasons after he slashed his clothes with a razor-blade in his cell last week.

He was ordered out of the court at the beginning of the trial on April 16 for repeatedly screaming "Allah is my defender" in Arabic, and complaining that his court-appointed lawyers were Jews. Maroni, Auerobi Beandali, Salim Boukhari and Fouhad Sabour are accused of plotting to bomb a busy public square in the French city of Strasbourg in December 2000.

They and a fifth man, Samir Karimou, all of whom are Algerians, are also accused of being members of a terrorist organization and of training at Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda camps in Afghanistan between 1998 and 2000.

In other developments on Tuesday, Beandali sacked one of his lawyers, Achim Groepper, for passing information on to the media before the trial. Groepper denied the accusation and filed a motion with the court to keep work as the Algerian's lawyer.

Before the hearing first began last month, Beandali said that a media conspiracy had been mounted against him to ensure he would receive a heavy sentence.

In his first testimony, Beandali said he and at least one other person had been plotting to bomb the synagogue in Strasbourg, not the city's famed Christmas market as had been suspected.

He also admitted training at a camp in Afghanistan for nine months but insisted he had not been acting on the orders of the al-Qaeda terrorist network or bin Laden. He said he had no ties with al-Qaeda and that he never identified himself with bin Laden's goals.

Frankfurt prosecutors said they found his testimony hard to believe.

The trial is expected to last about a year.

"Defendant in French bomb plot trial expelled from court ," Agence France Presse, May 7, 2002 Tuesday
11 posted on 05/17/2002 8:41:58 PM PDT by Wallaby
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To: Wallaby
Frankfurt prosecutors said they found his testimony hard to believe.

Wallaby, thanks for the news. This story had just a blip even on my news-junkie
radar, which is usually set at high gain.

But, after the events at the Church of The Nativity, I learned that for most of the
Western World and the mainstream press, assaults on synagogues and churches
are to be tolerated, if not applauded.

(And I'm not happy that mosques get blown up in the middle of air-strikes in a
full-tilt combat zone...but that's a totally different set of circumstances.)
12 posted on 05/18/2002 7:57:25 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Wallaby
Der Spiegel seems to have reported nothing on the Frankfurt trial since April 23rd. Mysterious.
13 posted on 05/18/2002 9:06:25 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Wallaby
For German readers, here's a link to the Der Spiegel report on the impending indictment of Motassadeq.
14 posted on 05/18/2002 9:10:46 AM PDT by aristeides
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