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Need Technical Help: New Motherboard Woes

Posted on 05/15/2002 11:09:10 PM PDT by AppyPappy

Here's the deal. It's new set up. Gigabyte GA-7VRXP board, 1500(1.33ghz) Athalon, ATI Radeon 7000 board, 256DDR RAM. When I boot the machine, I get...nothing. No signal to the monitor. Everything spins up but no signal. The monitor never comes off power-saving mode.

Note: I have not set the jumpers for the processor because they didn't come with instructions for the settings for the chip. The voltage is set to something called "Auto"(by default). The FS is set to 100(by default).

I have not changed any of the settings for the board.

Note: This is the same thing that happened with the machine I am replacing. It would boot but nothing would happen. I checked the monitor and it is fine. No other parts are the same between the two machines.


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KEYWORDS: computer; motherboard
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To: AppyPappy
Your case may (may) have a strange short out or other ghost in the machine. Are you using the same case? Pull your hard drive out and let it hang somehow externally... I have done this no big deal.  Do not have a CD Rom plugged in. Reseat everything even 2 or 3 times. Use different IDE cables. These cables can go bad.
41 posted on 05/17/2002 5:28:40 PM PDT by remaininlight
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To: AppyPappy
Also re-seat and check all those little black pluggies that are for HD LED, for on/off switch, for speaker etc. Even use a minimum of these pluggies.
42 posted on 05/17/2002 5:30:41 PM PDT by remaininlight
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To: Surfin
Right! Try to boot first without the HD. And use that on board vid. if you got it. Go into BIOS and go for the fail-safe, idiot proof settings.
43 posted on 05/17/2002 5:33:39 PM PDT by remaininlight
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To: AppyPappy
Try to re-seat the DDR memory chips. Everytime...and I mean everytime I open my box for routine cleaning and maintainence, I have to do this to get it to boot completely from the state that you describe. And my current PC is not the only one I have encountered this situation with.

Just a suggestion. Good luck!

44 posted on 05/17/2002 5:34:00 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: AppyPappy
The only solution to your PC problem is simple and permanent: buy and happily use an iMAC! I laugh at the millions of PC owners that are into masochistic self-flagellation as they try in vain to deal with their incessant equipment and software failures. Har de har har! It's all in fun, guys...
45 posted on 05/17/2002 5:35:18 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: tophat9000
It's shutting itself down. I assume that is due to overheating. Should I remove the "gook" from the fan where it meets the processor? I assumed that was thermal paste but maybe it is making the problem worse.
46 posted on 05/17/2002 5:40:51 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Paulus Invictus
I can't use a Mac. I'm a heterosexual.
47 posted on 05/17/2002 5:41:39 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Paulus Invictus

All in good fun, right?

48 posted on 05/17/2002 5:42:26 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Paulus Invictus
Bear in mind Appy Pappy is doing something Mac users almost never do - build a system from scratch. I suspect a lot of problems would be encountered if you tried building a Mac from scratch, if you could find the components that is.
49 posted on 05/17/2002 5:49:17 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: AppyPappy
Leave gook in place.
50 posted on 05/17/2002 5:59:13 PM PDT by remaininlight
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To: AppyPappy
AppyPappy I agree with "remaininlight..Leave the gook in place" this is thermal paste and is VERY important with AMD cpu.. they have heat issues.. I will go in to detail later at its 2 am in Calif. and just had last call on Friday night ;>....
51 posted on 05/18/2002 2:16:41 AM PDT by tophat9000
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To: tophat9000, Bush2000
The system no longer boots. Back to square one. And it happened without any changes. It would lock up and finally it just quit. I think the Processor is bad.
52 posted on 05/18/2002 1:03:08 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
Thank me later:

Your problem is that your power supply hasn't got enough wattage. For the rig you described, having a 350-watt power supply is the bare minimum, and even that may not be enough juice depending on how many peripherals you have.

Check your power supply rating on that machine. If you've upgraded to a new board, video adapter, and processor using your existing ATX case and power supply, you probably have less than 300-watts, which is not enough to make the system boot.

Replace the existing power supply with a 431-watt Enermax.

The processor is the component least prone to failure in any PC-based system.

There is likely no damage done to your system by under-watting it.

53 posted on 05/20/2002 2:32:35 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid
It's a 300 watt PS.
54 posted on 05/20/2002 4:30:38 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
Not quite enough. People are barely making it by with fast Athlons and hot video adapters on 350w. Add a few 7200 rpm HDD (or any SCSI component), and that 350w rig won't boot.

You'll need more wattage than that.

55 posted on 05/20/2002 4:59:52 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid
It wouldn't even boot with only the motherboard. And it is an AMD certified case.
56 posted on 05/20/2002 5:09:16 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
Certified for an AthlonXP? Not with a 300w PS, I don't think.

Probably cert'd for an older Thunderbird AMD processor (e.g. Athlon 700). The early K7s were cert'd for 300w PS's.

57 posted on 05/20/2002 6:05:37 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid
300 watt is fine according to the manufacturer and some other folks I contacted as long as I don't go overboard on video and drives. I bought a bigger cooler and replaced the CPU and everything works fine now. Thanks for everyone's help
58 posted on 06/18/2002 4:47:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
You win. :D

DOA Athlon CPU, eh? Pretty damn rare.

59 posted on 06/18/2002 9:02:01 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: AppyPappy
Sounds like a grounding problem to me.Check the MoBo connection to the chassis...

If the power supply ISN'T 300W, THEN you should STILL get something, particularly if you pull out ALL extraneous devices (or unplug their power).

To start off, try running the MoBo w/o hard disk, w/o CD, w/o sound card, etc... JUST the video card and maybe a floppy... you can then run an old DOS disk and a bunch of cool 386 games! (without sound of course)

60 posted on 06/18/2002 9:08:38 AM PDT by chilepepper
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