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Why is it, that facts , become " name calling ", to you ? Libertarians ,wrapped in their vaunted principles, and misrepresentation of the FFs and the Costitution, prefer to be outcasts . In 30 plus years, the LP has actually LOST voters and supporters. The GREENIES and the LP , have more in common, than Libertarians and Republicans do. Then there is the little eye opener, that so many Libertarians, on FR, keep claiming that they don't agree with oh so many points of the LP platform. Well, since principles are SO important to you, then you are unprincipled, because you support that which you disagree with. Such hypocracy ! For ALL of the screaming, about NOT supporting the GOP, because of the RINOS ... those RINOS, are from many different states. You can ONLY vite for the Representatives and Senators running in YOUR state. By claiming that you won't ever vote for the GOP, as a " punishment " against RINOS, is irrational , when you can't vote for / against them anyway ! Common sense is now such a very rare commodity !

Facts aren't name calling; your description of Ron Paul wasn't factual. It was demeaning and insulting to a man who has done a great deal for both of our parties. (I'm assuming here that you are a Republican.) I don't presume to speak for anyone but myself so I won't comment on your views of Libertarians and Greens. I only disagree with a handful (if even that) of platform points, just as I'm sure disagree with some points of the GOP platform. I gave up on trying to change the Republican Party from within because I finally realized that was impossible. They are not a suitable vehicle for constitutional government because they never believed in the Constitution. They believe in power for it's own sake. The ends justify the means; witness their reaction to those who question their authority.

What I said, was factual; you just don't like the facts.

1) Paul lost, when he ran as a Libertarian. ( that makes him a joke ! )

2) He could only get elected, to anything, when he ran as a Republican. ( that makes him a fraud, and a joke ! )

3) He votes , more times, with the Dems, than wth the GOPers. ( that makes him a joke ! )

4) He gets almost no support, from fellow Republican Reps. ( that makes him useless / neutered / a joke ! )

Now , dear, these are truths ... facts . I'll repeat myself, so that you can get someone to expalin this to you: I DID NOT NAME CALL ; I STATED UNASSAILABLE FACTS.