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Different handling of care for 2 boys stirs faith issue
The Arizona Republic ^ | May 12, 2002 | Kerry Fehr-Snyder

Posted on 05/13/2002 9:10:25 AM PDT by hsmomx3

They're both 9 years old, and both were diagnosed with brain tumors at Phoenix Children's Hospital.

But the similarities between Samuel Schaffer of Prescott and Bryce Garst of Mesa end there.

When Bryce's parents refused doctors' orders of chemotherapy or radiation six years ago, they took their son to Texas for alternative treatment.

But when Samuel's parents ignored doctors' orders to pursue the same course of treatment, doctors labeled the case "medical neglect" and called Child Protective Services.

Jane Walton, a spokeswoman for the hospital, said she couldn't explain why one case was referred to child welfare officials and the other wasn't, citing patient privacy rules.

She also said that last year alone, the hospital referred 437 cases to CPS for a variety of reasons.

Issue arose before

Samuel's case isn't the first in Arizona to pit parental rights against physicians' advice.

In 1999, the parents of a 15-year-old refused to allow their son to receive a blood transfusion because they were Jehovah's Witnesses and believed the procedure violated church teachings. Doctors intervened by getting a judge to issue a court order for the lifesaving transfusion.

Ten years earlier, a 12-year-old Paradise Valley girl wasn't so lucky. Her parents, followers of the Christian Science faith, refused medical care for a 42-inch tumor that grew from her leg. The girl died.

Samuel's case is less clear. His parents are refusing conventional treatment because they want a second opinion at a Texas cl inic that has used holistic medicine to treat some children successfully.

Sherry Lund, executive director for a group called Character Education U.S.A. and an advocate for the Schaffer family, said she believes the difference between Samuel's case and that of Bryce's lie in personality conflicts and perhaps religious beliefs.

But the bottom line, she maintains, is "the parents have the legal right to have a second opinion."

The Schaffers have said the state has no jurisdiction over their son "due to his unique status as a non-citizen or ambassador from a foreign land, the Kingdom of Yahveh," according to a letter from the hospital to CPS.

Samuel's father, Stephen, has said the family doesn't attend church, although it considers itself Christian. He maintains the family's religious beliefs are irrelevant to the case.

He also has declined to discuss what he does for a living, whether any of his seven children have ever been seen by a doctor or whether the children attend school.

"CPS has unlawfully taken guardianship, and that's the issue," Lund said.

On Monday, Samuel had an MRI and a spinal tap to determine whether his brain tumor had spread to other parts of his body. Results of the tests were not disclosed.

"The family did approve the MRI but not the spinal tap," Lund said. She described how security officers, nurses and CPS workers went into the boy's hospital room and "jerked the child out of the bed" and into a wheelchair for the tests.

"It was the most traumatic thing I've ever witnessed," she said.

Doctors want to begin administering radiation and chemotherapy in hopes that the tumor they removed from Samuel's brain last month will not return.

Alternative care sought

The family wants to take the boy to Texas for treatment by Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski to build the boy's immune system using his own cells.

The treatment worked for Bryce, who was just 3 when his brain tumor was removed. A year later, when the tumor grew back, doctors debated whether Bryce should undergo chemotherapy or radiation treatment.

His parents, Charlene and Chris Garst, decided to try Burzynski, instead. After two weeks of an immunotherapy drip, they took their son back to Phoenix Children's Hospital for evaluation.

"We had (brain) scans once a month, and the (Phoenix Children's Hospital) doctor would try to talk us out of the Texas treatment," Charlene said.

Although the therapy appeared to be shrinking the tumor, eventually by two-thirds, doctors were clearly opposed to the immunotherapy drip, she said. The family finally switched to another doctor, Kim Manwaring, who stopped pushing the issue.

Another doctor, Robert Spetzler of Barrow Neurological Institute, eventually removed the rest of the tumor, and Bryce is now healthy.

Manwaring is the same neurosurgeon who is treating Samuel.

Charlene said she was surprised to learn that Manwaring is the doctor who reported the family to CPS.

"I'm very surprised because Dr. Manwaring doesn't seem like an aggressive guy."

Reach the reporter at kerry.fehr-snyder@arizonarepublic.com or (602) 444-8975.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: cps; medicine; parentalauthority
It seems that there may be times when a doctor disagrees with how you would handle your child's treatment, he will report you to CPS.
1 posted on 05/13/2002 9:10:25 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3
The big question is...Did any of the doctors ask either or both children if there were any guns in their homes?

FMCDH

2 posted on 05/13/2002 9:26:41 AM PDT by nothingnew
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To: hsmomx3
I don't know about that in the case of Samuel. Bryce was getting treatment, so there was no cause for neglect charges. Samuel was getting no treatment at all. It appears from the article that the parents only started talking about going to Texas for treatment after the neglect charges were filed.

Personally, I'm not in favor of letting children die through lack of medical care. An adult, I think, is free to make his own decisions regarding medical treatment, but sick children should be provided more care than just prayer. If prayer does the job, fine. If not, then medical treatment is called for.

3 posted on 05/13/2002 9:31:09 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: jimtorr
There are times it is not appropriate to treat. Just becasue you are a child does not mean you need to be tortured through clinical trials and major treatments. I kknow of one amish family who lost custody of their three year old who had a fatal brain tumor and just decided to take the little one home and care for him instead of putting him throught the torture that medicine finds necessary. The child was removed from the family and put through the rigors of chemo and radiation. It died in a hospital after the torture did no good.

Parents need to protect thier chidren from the overarching needs of never-say-die medical personnel. Sometimes even young children die of miserable and nasty illnesses. When the prognoses is grim, death can be a blessing, particularly for those who believe that there is an afterlife.

4 posted on 05/13/2002 10:50:16 AM PDT by mlmr
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To: mlmr
There are times it is not appropriate to treat. Just becasue you are a child does not mean you need to be tortured through clinical trials and major treatments.

You're right, of course. Not all conditions are treatable. Even some that are, the treatments are more like torture than medicine, as you say.

In 1996 I was diagnosed with rectal cancer. Through the grace of God the surgery, chemo and radiation were effective. Someone else where I worked was diagnosed a month later, and died in six months.

Treatment can indeed seem as bad as the disease. I was fortunate, I "only" had severe diahrrea. That alone, combined with low red blood cell counts, was enough to make me think I was about to die. One humorous note, I was so sure I wouldn't make it, I maxed out my credit cards! (I have decent life insurance, so I knew the bill would be paid).

The issue in the article above, though, is medical treatment of some sort versus no medical treatment at all.

5 posted on 05/13/2002 11:07:06 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: jimtorr
I am not sure that "some medical treatment" is needed for brain tumor." One does not always have that requiered "fighting" mentality. Depending on the tumor and the prognosis, and with brain tumors it is often grim, I would just take my beloved little one home and have my primary provide pallitve medications to ease the pain. There are battles that are not worth fighting and this could be one of them. In my opinion, death is not the worst thing that can happen to me or my child.

There are definely diagnosis worth fighting and it sounds like your diagnosis was one of them. I am glad to hear of your recovery.

6 posted on 05/13/2002 11:16:42 AM PDT by mlmr
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To: hsmomx3
But the similarities between Samuel Schaffer of Prescott and Bryce Garst of Mesa end there.

When Bryce's parents refused doctors' orders of chemotherapy or radiation six years ago, they took their son to Texas for alternative treatment.

But when Samuel's parents ignored doctors' orders to pursue the same course of treatment, doctors labeled the case "medical neglect" and called Child Protective Services.

I suspect the Garst family didn't profess a belief in G-d like the Schaffer family. Christians are already categorized by most social workers as mentally ill.

7 posted on 07/10/2002 3:47:10 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: hsmomx3; 2sheep; gg188; f.Christian
But the similarities between Samuel Schaffer of Prescott and Bryce Garst of Mesa end there.

When Bryce's parents refused doctors' orders of chemotherapy or radiation six years ago, they took their son to Texas for alternative treatment.

But when Samuel's parents ignored doctors' orders to pursue the same course of treatment, doctors labeled the case "medical neglect" and called Child Protective Services.

I suspect the Garst family didn't profess a belief in G-d like the Schaffer family. Christians are already categorized by most social workers as mentally ill.

8 posted on 07/10/2002 3:47:42 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Prodigal Daughter
from drCarl...

You are either incredibly stupid or you need some mental health counseling. Probably both.

You amaze me, you fearful religious nuts. If you believe what you say you believe, it's no wonder you have caused humanity as much trouble as you've caused.

Seek help. Grow up. Try to live a good life without your pathetic fear of retribution. At very least, shut up.

876 posted on 7/10/02 3:44 PM Pacific by DrCarl

PROOF!

9 posted on 07/10/2002 3:55:03 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Wow! Isn't it amazing how much hostility these G-d haters are always walking around with? Also, how they are so anxious to "shut us up". How tolerant.
10 posted on 07/10/2002 10:25:14 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Prodigal Daughter
Fear--hate mongerers with weird superiority complexes...talibans---pc-liberals-pharisees/hypocrites!
11 posted on 07/10/2002 10:33:56 PM PDT by f.Christian
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