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To: Thorondir
American Catholic Catechism is wrong in part, and the Pope has ordered the American Bishops repeatedly to change it to comply with Catholic teaching.

I have the latest version, which was approved by John Paul II, and it says exactly what the earlier version said about homosexuality.

Where have YOU been?

35 posted on 05/12/2002 3:23:21 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Perhaps they got their act together and stopped being disobedient. I don't have the latest one, but teach from the Baltimore. And do you still stand by the following wacky statement?

Nobody I know is telling homosexuals that their lifestyle is a healthy alternative.

This is why I asked you where you have been, for our society is full of people saying this. Simply throwing my question back at me as a clever touche zinger is both childish and ingenuous. I would hope that you could do better, but each post I read from you leads me to further dispair of any hope for a challenging discourse. That you fail to see your own irrational mistakes makes improvement seem hopeless.
36 posted on 05/12/2002 3:34:09 PM PDT by Thorondir
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To: sinkspur
ME: American Catholic Catechism is wrong in part, and the Pope has ordered the American Bishops repeatedly to change it to comply with Catholic teaching.

YOU: I have the latest version, which was approved by John Paul II, and it says exactly what the earlier version said about homosexuality.

THE EARLIER VERSION THAT THE POPE DECLARED BLASPHEMOUS: CCC, 2358: The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. They do not choose their homosexual condition; for most of them it is a trial...

THE LATEST VERSION (WHICH DOES NOT SAY EXACTLY WHAT THE EARLIER VERSION SAID ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY BECAUSE THE POPE MADE THEM CORRECT IT): CCC, 2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial...

I put the tricky parts in bold so that you could see the difference. I know this has all been very difficult for you, but I'm sincerely trying to help. The American-make-it-up-as-you-go-along-catholic-church puts out so much cleverly evil propaganda and false teaching, that it is sometimes dificult to find the truth. But here we are, muddling our way through the morass. You asked for a citation, and here it is.
79 posted on 05/14/2002 4:03:26 AM PDT by Thorondir
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