[AM2000]

This is really good... and it applies not only to the West, but other cultures where Islam exists as a sizable minority as well... except there the exact nature of the conflict differs, but the existence of a conflict remains the same...

[mikeIII]

Yes, Philips' view strikes a chord with me too.

Muslims not only despise Western secular values as decadent, materialistic, corrupt and immoral. And they have a right to feel this way! Let them stay within clearly defined boundaries, do/say/practise whatever they want. The Dutch way of life is not to their liking - fine. please leave and take Islam back with you to Morocco, Algeria or wherever. Similarly, stay out of America, Israel, Kashmir/India and everywhere else local ways of life conflict with Islam. In other words, I'd say, STAY HOME KEEP YOUR ISLAM!