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1 posted on 05/10/2002 1:01:08 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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Hot Damn! I'm Catholic and I'm PO'd at the Israelis for attacking my church!

So here is what they can do to make it right.
1. Carve out some of their desert for a homeland for the Christians that have been displaced by Zionism.
2. Remove all muslims from this area.
3. Make the capitol of this Christian homeland Bethleham.
4. Allow the Christian nation to be self-governed.

Wouldn't it be nice to have two democracies in the Middle East? They would probably form an alliance against islam terrorist.

46 posted on 05/10/2002 1:48:25 PM PDT by kapn kuek
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To: Cinnamon Girl
uh...it's just a building.
48 posted on 05/10/2002 1:48:41 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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My goodness! i thought all of us multicultural peace loving diversity types respected other faiths! (sarcasm)
50 posted on 05/10/2002 1:48:56 PM PDT by pankot
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I can't wait until we hear what that graffiti says...
54 posted on 05/10/2002 1:54:12 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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The church is no stranger to conflict. Samaritans destroyed much of the original church during a revolt in 529. Christian Crusader and Muslim armies fought over it for many years. The church was rebuilt during the reign of the Roman Emperor Justinian in about 530 AD. Crusaders redecorated it and over the centuries it has been renovated and expanded with the addition of other chapels and monasteries around it.

Reuters needs a history lesson since these events took place over a period of almost a thousand + years.

57 posted on 05/10/2002 1:58:54 PM PDT by Stavka2
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Maybe George W. Bush can lend them the same cleaning crew he used after Clinton left.
58 posted on 05/10/2002 2:03:51 PM PDT by isthisnickcool
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It's just a building.
59 posted on 05/10/2002 2:04:42 PM PDT by Sloth
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Maybe the IDF should go piss on the Dome of the Rock.

If I ever get there the least I will do is spit on it.

61 posted on 05/10/2002 2:06:46 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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It looks like the clintoon whitehouse.
70 posted on 05/10/2002 2:18:52 PM PDT by arly
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look at that mess, these people are fighting for the right to self determination? They can't even keep their room clean or go to the potty by themselves.
71 posted on 05/10/2002 2:19:00 PM PDT by rageaholic
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I remember reading how the Iraqi soldiers s*** all over the Kuwaiti's houses during Desert Storm. There were huge, stinky piles of poo in the middle of all the rooms. Disgusting.
92 posted on 05/10/2002 2:45:41 PM PDT by tamikamaria
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dirty, filthy, muzzie pigs.

that's about all I can say.

93 posted on 05/10/2002 2:46:15 PM PDT by usconservative
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Hmmm...I'm intensely curious as to what the scrawled Arabic graffiti says. I bet it disproves the notion that the poor Palestinians were besieged victims...
103 posted on 05/10/2002 3:16:09 PM PDT by ellery
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"We have found 40 explosive devices and five rifles hidden there and the IDF is dismantling them now," an army spokeswoman said.

Shiptar ("ethnic Albanian") muslim savages DEMOLISHED (with explosives) over 100 Christian churches in Kosovo! For their "Palestinian" co-religionists to do the same to the Church of the Nativity would be NOTHING AT ALL to them!!!!

Besides that, these SAVAGES want to turn the Church into a muslim "martyr" shrine, because of the terorists who died there. Demolishing it would make it that much easierto do so!!

106 posted on 05/10/2002 3:27:37 PM PDT by Honorary Serb
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Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox and Armenian denominations share the fourth-century shrine, where areas of worship appeared to have escaped major damage in the standoff that included exchanges of gunfire between Israeli troops and the gunmen.

But the second floor of the Franciscan order's parish building in the complex looked like a war zone. Walls were pockmarked by bullet holes and scarred by smoke stains.

Greek Orthodox priest Father Kariton, standing in the basilica near a pile of discarded gasmasks, added: "The most important things are okay, but the museum is a little damaged."

121 posted on 05/10/2002 4:51:45 PM PDT by MarMema
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IMHO, Jesus is not happy about this.

5.56mm

124 posted on 05/10/2002 5:04:48 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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A lemon tree stood in the Franciscan compound, its branches bare after those who had been holed up inside the shrine ate its leaves.

Think about this sentence from the Reuters report. Then think about the sheer volumn of trash now in the church, and non-trash like mattresses. How could they have gotten all that stuff into the church and yet have neglected food?

Answer: They didn't. There was food in the church to begin with, and then, just like the Israelis say, the Israelis allowed in lots more food. The Israelis almost had to feed these people because otherwise the church folk would starved too, plus, when the people left the church this morning, some would have looked like emaciated holocaust victims and many would have been strecher cases. They didn't and they weren't. If anyone tore the leaves off that tree, it was because they like the taste of those leaves, or, much more likely, they were helping build the story that the Israelis were starving those in the church. Reuters buys this.

127 posted on 05/10/2002 5:09:47 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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This is appalling.
130 posted on 05/10/2002 5:18:46 PM PDT by TxBec
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Debbie Schlussel

May 10, 2002

Nativity Terrorists Murdered Americans

Question: What’s scarier than having your young son stoned to death?

Answer: Having your President negotiate for his murderers’ freedom.

That’s the insult added to injury that the families of three American citizens experienced, Thursday, as 26 Palestinian terrorists were led to freedom from their captivity inside the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem.

One of those families was the American Mandell family. American citizen Koby Mandell was barely thirteen years old, a year ago, when he and his friend Yosef Ish-Ran, also thirteen, were stoned to death in a cave in what was supposed to be a friendly hike in the hills for two young boys.

In Judaism, thirteen is the age of Bar Mitzvah—becoming a man. Barely men, these two young kids were tortured for almost two hours by Mahmoud Hamdan--one of the terrorists holed up, until Thursday, in Jesus’ church. Koby and Yosef will never get to experience manhood, unlike the cowardly scum who murdered them and are now roaming free, thanks to President Bush.

When Israeli authorities found Mandell’s and Ish-Ran’s bodies, they were so badly smashed and bloodied against the walls of the cave that they were identifiable only through dental records. The entire cave was red, as these terrorist murderers smeared anti-Semitic graffiti all over the walls with the two young boys’ blood. This was a cave formed by centuries of rainwater and the carvings of 6th Century monks who made it a place of prayer and holiness.

Now it is a holy grave of two peaceful, innocent young boys.

Imagine being the mother of Mandell, a cute, vivacious all-American kid, last photographed wearing the baseball hat of his favorite team—the New York Yankees. Imagine having to identify—and forever remember the image of—the lifeless, smashed skeleton and organs of what was once that smiling son in a Yankees hat.

Now imagine your President—George W. Bush—negotiating your son’s depraved, inhuman killers’ freedom—freedom that your son will never again have.

If you are American Sherri Mandell, from Silver Spring, Maryland, you do not have to imagine this. It is the nightmare that will never end. Jewish law dictates that the anniversary of a person’s death is his or her “yahrtzeit.” A special candle is lit to commemorate the death and remember the departed. Mrs. Mandell has barely completed a year of painful mourning for her dead, adorable, peaceful son who never hurt anyone. Now, she must experience this pain all over again, because she must mourn the death of common sense and justice in her and our President.

While Sherri Mandell was lighting the yahrtzeit candle for her son, President Bush was partying with the Saudi Crown Prince, Abdullah, who sponsors terrorists like the ones who killed her son. While she was visiting the grave of her forever-13 son, President Bush was bowing to Abdullah’s threat that America will face “grave consequences” if it does not change its position toward Mrs. Mandell’s American son’s murderers. And while she was trying to remember the cute American son that once was--rather than the gruesome pile of bones, guts, tissue, and blood into which he was transformed--President Bush pressured Israel into giving Sherri Mandell’s child’s murderers their freedom—all to appease the rotund, brazen Saudi royal.

Our Commander-in-Chief negotiating the freedom of killers of our citizens is nauseating. So much for being the Chief Executive enforcer of laws. I guess he forgot about those laws against murder.

Then there are Avi Boaz and Sara Blaustein—also Americans, also murdered in cold blood by the terrorists President Bush helped set free from the Church of the Nativity. Never to be brought to trial, never to face justice.

Ibrahim Moussa Salem Abayat and Ismail Hamdan, both freed from the Church and prominent members of Arafat’s Fatah Tanzim, were involved in numerous terrorist attacks, including the murder of 72-year-old Boaz. Boaz, a building contractor, had close personal relationships with many Palestinian Arabs and traveled to Bethlehem on the morning of January 15, 2002, on business. As he entered the city, he was stopped at a Palestinian Authority roadblock, where he showed the PA policemen his U.S. passport. The PA police then allowed Fatah terrorists to abduct him to Beit Sahur, where they murdered him.

American citizen Sara Blaustein, of Lawrence, New York, was murdered in a drive-by shooting by Abayat, now freed from the Church of the Nativity. At Blaustein’s funeral, her family dealt with the outrage that the U.S. Embassy refused to send a representative, in order not to make "a political statement." Yet, its Consul-General, Ed Abington (later paid millions as Arafat’s Washington lobbyist) routinely attended funerals of Palestinians who, unlike Blaustein, weren’t even Americans.

These American citizens did not die in vain. Their relatives are promoting legislation, the Koby Mandell Act, to create a Justice Department office to pursue Palestinian Arab terrorists who kill or injure Americans and bring them to trial in the U.S.

But, legislation or not, President Bush should be demanding the extradition of these murderers of Americans to the U.S. to face justice—not negotiating for their freedom.

135 posted on 05/10/2002 6:02:55 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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I have been in a Jordanian Truck Stop...the restroms are meant for ARABS...not tourists, but I TRIED to go into the Ladies Room (HA) of one and it was HORRIBLE!!! HORRIBLE!!! The TOURIST rest Rooms were nice but what the local Arabs used weere DISGUSTING!! Our Guide pleaded with me not to use it,,,and what I saw when I walked in, I knew why he was soooo embarrassed...it was like ANIMALS had used it.
136 posted on 05/10/2002 6:02:58 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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