Gradual Genocide: Fertility, Feminism And Fascism

ToogoodReports ^ | May 8, 2002 | Henry Makow Ph.D.

[weikel]

Cool bet she is not b****ing about men or talks about women's rights.

[THROW?]

I am going to try my hardest to say this and not be rude about it, so please re-read what I wrote and pay special attention to the portion that said who I am and what people like you should not misconstrue. (POST #39) I WAS NOT defending what most people call "feminism." I was defending womens rights (and all other people's rights from black, yellow, and yes even the white male in this day and age) which some of those women call themselves feminists, and hate the fem-nazi femenists as much as we do. Do you understand?

[Lorianne]

Everybody in America, by virtue of their Constitutional rights is allowed free association and free speech. That includes feminists of any stripe, and any other group who wants to form and enter the public fray politically.

I don't doubt your experience on a college campus. Blind idealogues are like that. They don't think. They are sheep so they are not dangerous. The people at the helm of political movements DO think and we need to keep track of what they are up to. The people at the helm need the sheep stationed around the country, because a). they do all of the grunt work but b). they are easy to manipulate and control. I wouldn't waste a moment worrying about what the sheep think of me.

[Lorianne]

....everyone says life was better in ther 50's( im too young) when women to put it bluntly knew their place...

LOL . I know some conservative Republican women who would tear you to shreds over that comment, not even leaving a scap for the liberal femists to fight over. .... women are happier with their home, man, and family

There are 3.1 BILLION females on the planet. You have zero authority to speak for all women. I trust each individual woman to decide for herself what makes her happy. Presuming to tell 3.1 billion human beings what to do, how to live and what their "place" is is the pinnacle of arrogance. Congratulations for reaching the top!

[weikel]

I mentioned exceptions.

[THROW?]

I will have to differ with you on the dangers of sheep. Sheep have gotten pictures of George Washington taken down because he is white. Sheep got (or at least are in the process of getting) all Christian aspects out of education while tolerating all other forms. I know this is off the subject, but the "seperation of church and state" was not in the constitution. It was coined many years later. Our country was founded on religion and sheep are trying to take it away. What next? No more "In God We Trust" on money. Like I said, I know it is off subject, but in today's world of equal rights (which I agree with) people can do things like this. Unfortunately we have politicians that are more concerned with their next party/hooker/paycheck/election than the longevity and security of the United States. They are the ones who should stop these sheep, but don't.

[weikel]

"I cannot conceive otherwise than that He, the Infinite Father, expects or requires no worship or praise from us, but that He is even infinitely above it." --- Benjamin Franklin, from "Articles of Belief and Acts of Religion", Nov. 20, 1728

"The priesthood have, in all ancient nations, nearly monopolized learning. And ever since the Reformation, when or where has existed a Protestant or dissenting sect who would tolerate A FREE INQUIRY? The blackest billingsgate, the most ungentlemanly insolence, the most yahooish brutality, is patiently endured, countenanced, propagated, and applauded. But touch a solemn truth in collision with a dogma of a sect, though capable of the clearest proof, and you will find you have disturbed a nest, and the hornets will swarm about your eyes and hand, and fly into your face and eyes." --- John Adams, letter to John Taylor

"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved--the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!" --- John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson

"In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot ... they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer engine for their purpose." --- Thomas Jefferson, to Horatio Spafford, March 17, 1814

"Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." --- James Madison, "A Memorial and Remonstrance", 1785

They thought Christianity had a good moral code but they weren't fans of organized religion and most were deist.

[Lorianne]

Ok you're right. Sheep are dangerous if you can get them to vote.

[FreedomFriend]

It seems like you're upset about the traditional female role. There is a reason that women are nurturers and men providers. IT WORKS. God made us that way. No bit of whining is going to change that.

[Lorianne]

It seems like you're upset about the traditional female role. No I'm not. Not in the least. If that is what a woman wants I'm all for it! There is a reason that women are nurturers and men providers. IT WORKS. God made us that way. God made each of us with free will. With that comes the responsibility to treat our fellow humans as if they have free will and not to pretend to be God by pretending to know what's best for everyone. I'll trust God to be God, not human imposters pretending to take his place and direct the universe. No bit of whining is going to change that.

Who's whining? It seems to me like the author of this article is the one whining because he can't control other people and make them all be what he wants them to be. He doesn't want others to have free will, free speech. He wants to control others, assign the roles to the various actors, direct people's lives like we're all in a theatre play. His little temper tantrum is silly and really rather unmanly.

[THROW?]

I guess I have to parts to my reply. #1) I disagree with organized religion and the belief system as it is today. I am Christian and believe in God. I know that I know extremely little about our Creator, why we are here, etc., so I try to keep an open mind and the moral code as you put it which I agree with. I actually think that is the main point of all religions. "The Golden Rule"

#2) What in the world are you trying to point out.

[weikel]

That our founders liked Christian morality but did not base the country on religion.

[weikel]

Bump I would say we evolved that way buyt you are correct and feminist want to upset the natural order of things.

[THROW?]

I gotcha. Thanks. My point is it is based on religios principles. I don't mean Christianity, or Catholism, or any other sect. But yes, I agree with that. I still don't get its relation to feminism though.

[weikel]

Oh you brought it up on your post it had little to do with feminism. Yes I agree that the founders though religion was good for keeping morals among the common people( but were leery about it instilling superstition and irrationality in them too).

[THROW?]

Ok, lost track. Thanks, now that I am on the same page. ;)