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To: Nebullis
Swing a bucket of water at the end of rope and centrifugal forces pull it up and away. These forces result from the combined gravitational pull of all the distant stars and planets, Austrian physicist Ernst Mach wrote.

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I am searching my peanut-sized brain for memories of high-school physics...spitballs ...the clingy sweater on the pigtailed girl ... sorry ... ah yes!

It went something like this: There is no "centrifugal force", inertia makes a body continue in a straight line once it has been set in motion, but the rope and the earth's gravity prevent that (disregarding friction). There was nothing about "pull of all the distant stars and planets". In fact, we were told that astrology was laughable precisely any gravity effect from the planets or stars was so immeasurably small as to be entirely negligible.

Was I told wrong, or this journalist full of it?

9 posted on 05/08/2002 8:00:23 AM PDT by tictoc
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To: tictoc
I thought all forces were 'relative' to the observer. Damn. I'll have to break out Hawking's book again...
10 posted on 05/08/2002 8:13:09 AM PDT by jbstrick
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To: tictoc
Your not wrong. This guy is full of it!
16 posted on 05/08/2002 9:26:44 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: tictoc
See the link at post#5.
18 posted on 05/08/2002 9:39:50 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: tictoc; Physicist
According to the Theory of Special Relativity, the laws of physics should work the same regardless of your "frame of reference" (i.e. your velocity of movement relative to some other observer).

The Theory of General Relativity extends this principle to accelerated frames of reference (i.e. your velocity and acceleration relative to some other observer should be irrelevant). For instance, if you're in a rocket accelerating at 50 m/s^2 (relative to the earth), you should get the same results if you make your measurements on the assumption that the rocket is standing still and the entire universe is accelerating at 50 m/s^2 in the opposite direction.

However, the first observation you'd make in such a situation is that you're getting squashed under 5 Gs. This must be explained in a manner consistent with either frame of reference. If we use a frame of reference in which the rocket is accelerating, then the G effects come from the fact that the couch you're sitting in is exerting a force upon you to make you accelerate along with it. If we use a frame of reference in which the rocket is standing still and the rest of the universe is accelerating, then the G effects come from gravitational effects produced by accelerating the entire universe at 50 m/s^2.

I've paged Physicist in case I garbled the explanation.

20 posted on 05/08/2002 9:53:33 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: tictoc
You're right. The correct term is centripetal force.
50 posted on 05/09/2002 1:51:17 PM PDT by Keme
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To: tictoc
Isn't it Centripetal Force that acts on a body that is moving like the author (and you) describe? Centripetal = toward the center.
74 posted on 05/10/2002 6:52:53 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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