[Linda Liberty]

Are you implying Fortuyn was a libertarian? On what basis? Libertarians generally favor open immigration, and I gather Fortuyn's main shtick was closed borders.

[xm177e2]

Yeah, but the Netherlands were full up. Even a libertarian has to draw the line somewhere. I don't mean an overly-ideological extremist like the members of the Libertarian Party. I mean someone who wants freer speech, freer trade, lower barriers to the entry of new businesses, lower burdens on the productive members of society, and someone who wants to destroy the welfare state. That's a "libertarian."