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Fortuyn Shot Dead, Disaster for Netherlands
cnn | 5-6-02 | cnn

Posted on 05/06/2002 11:13:57 AM PDT by crystalk

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To: crystalk
Wait, wait, don't tell me! He was murdered by a peace-loving, pro-immigration Liberal?
21 posted on 05/06/2002 11:46:38 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: tomahawk
Absolutely correct. The U.S. will meet a similar fate by becoming LATINIZED by Mexico and the rest of Central and South America.

This is GOING TO HAPPEN no matter what neither you, nor I, nor President Bush, nor President Fox, nor Fidel Castro do to stop it.

It can turn into a very good thing, IMHO. Living in South America (in Chile) I can see first hand that these people have a great deal to contribute to the U.S. and will in the end continue the American dream, not end it. They are in general MUCH more religious and of higher moral character than many or even most Americans.

There is a selection effect w/ respect to the immigrants (or at least there used to be). Only the ones willing to make the effort to leave their own country and make a go of it in the U.S. would show up, and these were very hardworking and resourceful.

That has changed a lot now thanks to the People's Republic of Kalifornia welfare rules. Sigh...

Anyway, I have NO DOUBT that Islam will end the European dream (a self-styled 'culturally superior', and in no small way racist Social Democrat cradle to grave paradise), or co-opt it into a Islamic Socialist Empire extending from Scotland to Malaysia...

22 posted on 05/06/2002 11:49:36 AM PDT by chilepepper
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To: pabianice
Or someone who doesn't like queers.
23 posted on 05/06/2002 11:51:51 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: crystalk
To any of you fools that do not believe that the Muslims are terrorist & dangers to the whole western society you better shape up NOW! You better get your president to CLOSE OUR BOARDERS & KICK THESE LOWLIFES OUT OF OUR COUNTRY. And the rest of you big GW fans better get off your a$$e$ & understand what Pat Buchanan has been saying for years. End of story. (BTW do you ever see a bad a$$ guy shot by good guys)
24 posted on 05/06/2002 11:51:59 AM PDT by Digger
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To: crystalk
Good grief... the "uy" (also "ij") dipthong in Dutch is pronounced "ay" or "eye" (depending on the dialect), so it would be "For-TAYN" or "For-TINE".
25 posted on 05/06/2002 11:54:12 AM PDT by Own Drummer
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To: joeyman
My sister is married to a Dutchman and lived there for many years. She says it's illegal to carry a gun in Holland.
26 posted on 05/06/2002 11:54:39 AM PDT by Aria
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To: Digger
". . . Muslims are terrorist & dangers . . . . CLOSE OUR BOARDERS & KICK THESE LOWLIFES OUT OF OUR COUNTRY. . . "

Why stip with Muslims? Lets kick out all middle easterners.

27 posted on 05/06/2002 11:54:42 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: crystalk
I pray that our Lord Jesus Christ will welcome him into heaven, and that his faults will die with him,...

Amen.

28 posted on 05/06/2002 11:55:56 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: crystalk
If you can read Dutch (I can't), here's a link to Pim Fortuyn's home page. Be careful -- there's one graphic image of the murder scene.
29 posted on 05/06/2002 12:00:50 PM PDT by inkling
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To: The Great Satan
This assassination is certainly a dreadful thing. However, I don't know why this man is being lionized here at freerepublic. He sounds like a racist and an anti-religious bigot. I have qualms about political Islamism as much as the rest of us, but I believe this man seems to have been bigoted against religion because he objects to religious teachings on sexual morality, and people have a right to believe and express.
30 posted on 05/06/2002 12:05:39 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: chilepepper
They are in general MUCH more religious and of higher moral character than many or even most Americans.

I agree with your comments.

This is where Buchanan is exposed as a racist.

He goes on and on in his book The Death of the West lamenting about Europe's low birthrate. Irregardless of whether Europe is populated by white people, it is the values and politics which are anathema to us conservatives.

Whereas, as you point out, the immigrants from Latin countries to the south are religious and pro-family and long term may be conservative as they prosper.

It's just that there are too many immigrants to assimilate well at this point, and the multicultural emphasis is not indoctrinating either the immigrants or the next generation of Americans about the uniqueness and importance of American values.

This needs to be addressed in light of what is happening in Europe.

We shouldn't be concerned over what color this country turns out to be, as long as it is based on the heritage we received from our America forefathers.

31 posted on 05/06/2002 12:07:11 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: zarf
It's good that someone in Hollwood has some cojones!
32 posted on 05/06/2002 12:07:32 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: inkling
From the link, it looks like he was laready dead at the scene.

No one is working on him at all, he doesn't even have an I.V. started, which is standard here.

They must do emergency medicine in a different way in Europe.

33 posted on 05/06/2002 12:11:56 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: happygrl
laready = already
34 posted on 05/06/2002 12:12:34 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: crystalk
Was he shot by an Islamist or by a left-wing Dutchman?
35 posted on 05/06/2002 12:13:31 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: chilepepper
Dang right: Those of us who came of age in the '70's fell for that "overpopulation" B.S., so we haven't even reproduced at a replacement rate.
The Hispanics, however, have more than made up for our failing, and we'll soon find ourselves outnumbered in our own country.
36 posted on 05/06/2002 12:13:34 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: crystalk
From the Reuters news wires.

Reports of Fortuyn's death provoked joy in some quarters. A black teen-ager on a train to Hilversum shouted jubilantly: "Pim Fortuyn is dead, Pim Fortuyn is dead."

Reuters

37 posted on 05/06/2002 12:19:06 PM PDT by ijcr
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To: ijcr
Reports of Fortuyn's death provoked joy in some quarters. A black teen-ager on a train to Hilversum shouted jubilantly: "Pim Fortuyn is dead, Pim Fortuyn is dead."

There's future of European democracy - just like Africa's.

38 posted on 05/06/2002 12:57:45 PM PDT by Catphish
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To: chilepepper
Unlike Europe, we are a Republic founded on an Ideal..not a historic boundry or race. If the latino's embrace the American Ideal they will be just as American as any of us. No harm no foul.

As for Azatlan, all I have to say is .338.

39 posted on 05/06/2002 1:16:28 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Catphish
There's future of European democracy - just like Africa's.

The next couple of years is critical to determine what the population in Europe is doing about the welfare state and many obvious flaws.

If they don't take drastic actions to remedy their problems, then Europe is finished for good!

40 posted on 05/06/2002 1:18:44 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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