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This is huge news that we probably won't see anywhere else.
I remember some articles in the Los Angeles Times back in the eighties about New Zealand, the world's oldest socialist system, how they were having trouble financing their socialism because the third generation had no initiative to better themselves or work hard to help support the system that gave them cradle to grave "security."

I never saw any follow up information on this or any real news on how the socialist countries are actually doing. I would very much appreciate anyone who could direct me now or in the future to further solid information on this subject.

...New Zealand...were having trouble financing their socialism because the third generation had no initiative to better themselves or work hard to help support the system that gave them cradle to grave "security."...

As I remember it, the Kiwis had their chance back in the 80s, and blew it.

New Zealand is not only the oldest socialist country, but the ONLY one to every significantly roll back their socialism Non-Violently.

How it happened (as best I can recall, without rooting around on the hard drive) - back in the 80s, the Kiwi government piled up SO MANY LAWS AND REGULATIONS on commerce, that they actually brought the entire national economy to a STANDSTILL.
Regulation-Constipation.

Severe economic double-plus-ungoodness.

The President/Prime Minister (whatever - the head leftist goof) went on national TV and delivered a weepy, drunken, resignation speech that stands in history as New Zealand's greatest humiliation.

Many of the brainless laws were rolled back. But global economic conditions (and stupidity) caused the Kiwis to go back to their socialist ways after several years. (the exact time frame eludes me at present)

Within the past three years I remember reading an article that said that the Auckland area had the highest suicide rate among teenagers (or people under 25 - I don't remember exactly) in the WORLD.

It is tragic, but New Zealand appears to be (for the time-being) hopeless - as far as moving AWAY from socialism is concerned.

Feel free to correct me on the details here - this is the best I can do at 4:42AM without further research.

And don't they have that transexual person as their Head Goof down there now? At the swearing-in ceremony the parliment sang: "For She's a Jolly Good Fellow".
I kid you not.

Horrible, horrible...

>> any real news on how the socialist countries are actually doing<<

When socialists take over a rich country like Sweden or Britain, it takes a long time to break down and redistribute the wealth of, literally, a thousand years. And it takes a few generations to "reeducate" the people.

After that, of course, there is no wealth to redistribute and no producers sufficently robust to fund the system.

When socialists take over where there is no wealth, like Zimbabwe or Sierra Leone, you have immediate catastrophe.