[Torie]

You might revisit the current Mexico fetility rate. Nothing I have read suggests a poverty problem in Sweden. There apparently is a crime problem. Apparently the society has a flu bug, and I didn't know that, and it saddens me. The material goods of an efficient tolerant generous efficient democratic economy are a two edge sword. Sustenace for the soul apparently for many cannot be derived wholly from this mortal coil. I understand that, and allow for that, believe it or not.

[FITZ]

Okay --instead I'll use a Muslim country's fertility rate --but I think Mexico's is one of the highest in the world. Muslim countries don't tend to have high standard of livings and they don't seem to have good retirement plans for their elderly ---the US still has one of the best but I don't think it's about birth rate one way or the other, it's on how much people save for their retirement and how efficiently people work.