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To: Domestic Church
A straight man gives up the good (and the lifelong Sacramental Graces inherent)of Marriage for the greater good of the Priesthood.

I disagree that the priesthood is a "greater good." It is a different good from marriage, and the two are not incompatible (as the Eastern Rite experience testifies). Plus, this view that the priesthood is superior to the plain old lay life is an ugly form of clericalism that we need to get rid of.

think in terms of a life long accumulation of Sacramental Grace and the transmission of Faith onto the next generation and the Sacramental graces from that generation and so on...it is an enormous amount...remember -"To God, all points in time are present in their immediacy."CCC)

Tis a bizarre concept to speak in terms of an "amount" of grace, as if Divine Life were like water in bottle, "accumulating" as in a storehouse. Grace is not a thing; it is the Life of God present in one, which makes that person grow in identification with Christ as one acts more and more like Christ.

167 posted on 05/04/2002 9:09:49 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
" Grace is not a thing"

What do you call a gift, a charism, a benefit? Grace is "first and foremost the gift of the Spirit." CCC
173 posted on 05/04/2002 10:01:11 AM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: sinkspur
Careful you are not being tainted by egalitarianism. The clergy is a higher order. One can says that being a noncom is just as good as being an officer, but officers have greater rights than noncoms. Likewise a priest has more rights than a lay brother.What do ypu think ordination means? Clericalism is an abuse of authority, and it tendss to come when the clergy identify with the ruling orders in secular society rather than their brothers in Christ. Since in our society the majority of the ruling elite are liberal, that is the the bishops have got in trouble by trying to conform with the thinking of liberal theologians and academics. Law thinks he is "hot s...." because he was on the right side of the civil rights movement. Despite his reputation as a conservative, he has tried to hard to accomodate people who will always hate the Catholic Church until the Church becomes as docile as the Episcopal Church.
191 posted on 05/04/2002 12:44:34 PM PDT by RobbyS
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