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CHP steps in to protect records in Oracle probe
sacbee.com ^ | Thursday, May 2, 2002 | Bee Capitol Bureau

Posted on 05/02/2002 3:33:35 PM PDT by let freedom sing

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:35:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

California Highway Patrol officers secured the state offices of the state Department of Information Technology Thursday to prevent removal or shredding of documents related to the unfolding Oracle computer investigation.

CHP Commissioner Spike Helmick said at 12:30 p.m. that representatives of the state attorney general

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; california; chp; computers; davis; dit; fraud; oracle; scandal; shredding
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To: Grampa Dave; gaspar
Per this story the register. Davis got $25000 five days after the contract was inked.
41 posted on 05/02/2002 6:13:16 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: gc4nra
Freeper named Jim just asked Bill Simon on the Larry Elder Show KABC790 if he had heard of this story. Simon said he was aware. Go Simon! Go Jim, whoever you are!

Are you sure Jim wasn't James? I was the first caller in to Simon & got a good plug (IMHO) in for OC Freepers too!

Go Simon!

42 posted on 05/02/2002 6:30:20 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Dinsdale
The word is out even in the United Kingdom, where The Register - link to the story in post #41 above - apparently knows all about the deal. Among other things, they say:

$41 million is chump change compared to the billions the state has spent buying its way out of a self-inflicted energy crisis, but it indicates that mismanagement goes all the way to the Governor's office.

How many people in California have heard about this latest example of Davis's mismanagement and/or corruption?

Though in an attempt to avoid rushing to judgement, this isn't the first time that California has thrown multi-millions down the IT hole. There doesn't seem to be anybody in California government, at any level or in any decade, that has a clue about how to manage a large IT proposal process.

Of course, possibly they know just the right way to manage for a little personal profit.

43 posted on 05/02/2002 6:37:55 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: gubamyster
Yeah, it was you, but Larry said "thanks Jim" when you hung up.
44 posted on 05/02/2002 9:22:46 PM PDT by gc4nra
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To: let freedom sing
Dynamite scandal.Only the U.S. Attorney should investigatet this scandal.State Attorney General can't be trusted.Çonflict of interest because Attorney General Lockyer had recently received $25000 contrirbution from Oracle. Oh, what a web of deception! Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall.Humpty Dumpty had a big fall.All the King's horses,and all the King's men, couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
45 posted on 05/02/2002 9:46:40 PM PDT by stimulate
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To: stimulate
Tomorrow'$ another day.
46 posted on 05/03/2002 12:06:31 AM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: Grampa Dave
.....trash search seemed to show that evidence was being discarded....

That's been done so much lately. {{{yawn}}}

47 posted on 05/03/2002 7:27:59 AM PDT by Liz
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To: d14truth
Time for a few more aspirin.............

Aspirin? Gray better double-up on heavy-duty doses of librium.

48 posted on 05/03/2002 7:36:37 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Grampa Dave
What the hell does trucking/ticketing there of, have anything to do with the article?

Sounds to me like you are one of those folks who think trucks should be banned from the road. If they are too slow, you intelligent biengs in four wheelers, talking on cell phones, get in accidents because you can't drive and talk and menuever all at the same time in passing a truck.

If the trucks drive too fast, you complain that they are rear ending you and riding your assets. If you are not doing the speed limit in any lane, anyone will ride your ass. If you want to do the speed limit in the hammer lane, expect to have your back side riddin' by any vehicle untill you get the hell out of the way. Which, you most likely take it so personal that you would probably stay where you are and never move over. In which case, you would be the guilty party because all freeways have signs that read "SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT".

Stop blaming truckers for your frustrations. If it were not for truckers, you would starve.

SR

49 posted on 05/03/2002 7:52:39 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep
If you read my post, I was talking about the CHP not enforcing the law re the speed limit. The CHP since Davis appears to be politically controlled by the governor.

From your rant, I see that you are all in favor of truckers doing 75 mph, getting your rear bumper, honking the horn and forcing you to get off the interstate so they can go to the next truck stop. So are you guys donating big time to Davis not to be ticketed for driving 75 in areas where 55 may be too much for a fully loaded rig?

My wife's father made his living driving trucks. He was the last of the breed, a gentleman trucker. When the data comes out one of these days about the deaths involved with truckers at fault due to high speed, reckless and dangersous driving and driving under the influence of something, all hell will break loose.

I'm against dangerous citizen drivers who cut in front of truckers, drive in their blind spots, never let the trucker back into a lane nor signal that trucker get back into the lane or two make a wide turn. They should be removed from the highways.

So tell us what truck you drive so we can get off the road before you flatten us and call it your constitutional rights.

50 posted on 05/03/2002 8:48:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
So tell us what truck you drive so we can get off the road before you flatten us and call it your constitutional rights.

LOL...

Alright Gramps... In city areas, I would never do over the flow of traffic when I drove a big truck. In the country however, setting cruise at 90mph, easin' the seat back and tipping the ol' cowboy hat a little forward was no stranger to me... Granted, there are a few bad apples that spoil the bunch--obviously those are the truckers you speak of. But, there are MANY who can handle well over 3200 miles a week, and can handle more than 70 hrs driving in a 7 day period.(10 hrs a day). Running three log books at times, a thermos or two of coffee, a big truck that 'll do over a hundred with a load, fed my family well for years. And never got in an accident.

So, the moral of the story is this...and this is for all truckers, not just this ex...truckers are not on the way to the next truck stop, they are on the way to their next load or drop, or home after a few weeks out. Since you are most likely on you way to Wallmart and driving slow because you want to see something not directly in front of you, get the hell out of the way and let my man do his job...he has a family to feed.

SR

51 posted on 05/03/2002 9:18:03 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep
I don't drive slow on the express ways. I do the speed limit. I consider a trucker behind me wanting to do the 90 that you brag about to be a potential killer on wheels.

If one of these killers takes out members of my family driving 90 and running them over, he will never have to worry about hiring lawyers to get him off and back on the road! Not a threat, just a promise!

52 posted on 05/03/2002 9:23:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
If your response is what you got out of everything I said, then I wasted my time from the git-go.

Do the speed limit in the slow lane. If you get rear ended doing the speed limit in the left lane, it should be your fault. Speed limits are an average. Any speed cop will tell you this. They depend on a faster flow of traffic to empty out cities in a reasonable fashion. This is why you rarely see speed cops out at rush hour. They want the flow to go faster than 55 at this time.

Unwritten by-laws are as important as written. You just have to have the common sense to see them and understand them.

A trucker who has his head in his a$$ deserves what happens to him. One who drives responsibly, should not be lumped in with the rest. Kinda like our gun laws right. A lot of people don't like guns so what is happenning? It is time to say "Tough $hit" to the complainers in the world is it not?

SR

53 posted on 05/03/2002 9:38:13 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; seamole
The current CalGov2002 list has gotten about 200 listings since it began March 12, 2002. The maximum preferences setting is to show 250 articles. At the rate news is generated (mostly) about Davis, we will start to push the older articles off the viewable list in one or two weeks.

The old CalGov2002 list stopped getting new listings when the new bump list was created by editing the old bump list, so I thought that perhaps a new, third CalGov2002 list should be similarly created soon so that it will still be easy to find articles related to this election, at least until November, without having a cumbersome listing of a thousand threads. It's also nice to segregate the high volume of gubernatorial election stuff away from the other CA state news.

The bump list register page says that bump lists are being phased out and are locked in favor of the topics system. Does anyone have a good solution?

54 posted on 05/03/2002 12:53:56 PM PDT by heleny
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To: seamole;heleny;john robinson;
I agree.

This bump list facility that John gave us is so important for following fast moving news stories like this Oracle debacle and the power crisis, and the Anthrax scare, etc!

56 posted on 05/03/2002 1:08:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: john robinson; Ernest_at_the_Beach; seamole
This bump list facility that John gave us is so important for following fast moving news stories like this Oracle debacle and the power crisis, and the Anthrax scare, etc!

With this scandal making news everywhere, the list will fill in about a week (I counted 213 listings so far). I really like the bump list because it is so much more specific than the CA state topic or the Campaign 2002 section.
John Robinson, if you have time, please look into this. Could the bump list register be "unlocked" to create a third calgov2002 list?
Seamole, I had pinged you because the bump list register page said to contact you about questions on the bump lists.
Ernest_at_the_Beach, keep up the bump list pinging! The Oracle scandal is much bigger than most of the news in March that's on the list.

Thanks for all your help.

DUMP RECALL DAVIS!

57 posted on 05/04/2002 8:15:44 PM PDT by heleny
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To: heleny
213 listings so far

Well we have a long way to go to catch up with Calpowercrisis (it was at 2000 quite some time ago ) but this Oraclegate may just be getting started!

58 posted on 05/04/2002 10:00:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well we have a long way to go to catch up with Calpowercrisis (it was at 2000 quite some time ago ) but this Oraclegate may just be getting started!

How can one view 2000 listings? The old ones seem to just pushed off the bottom my view of the bump list, although the articles still exist and can be found with a search.
Luckily the CalGov2002 list should stop after November.

59 posted on 05/05/2002 12:11:54 AM PDT by heleny
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To: heleny
When John first set up the Bump list register he had it set up so you could go back thru everything that was in the system.
But he had severe and intermittent performance problems and slowdowns and had to retract that capability!
60 posted on 05/05/2002 12:15:39 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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