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Bill would push driver's license with chip
UPI ^ | May 1, 2002 | Dee Ann Divis

Posted on 05/01/2002 7:07:57 AM PDT by boston_liberty

WASHINGTON, May 1 (UPI) -- Legislation to standardize state-issued driver's licenses across the United States, and to mandate that those licenses carry a computer chip and incorporate some kind of unique identifier such as a fingerprint, will be introduced in Congress on Wednesday.

The Driver's License Modernization Act of 2002, sponsored by Reps. Jim Moran, D-Va., and Tom Davis, R-Va., also directs that the chip be capable of accepting software for other applications, including those of private companies.

The objective of the legislation is to prevent identity fraud and enhance national security by making driver's licenses a better way to establish identity. The use of a fingerprint, for example, would make it harder for someone to steal and use the card.

The bill would also mandate the establishment of standards for documents accepted by states to better establish the identity of the person applying for a driver's license or non-driver ID card.

"The intent of this legislation is to correct flaws in the driver's license standard that states currently have," Moran's spokesman, Dan Drummond, told United Press International.

"Right now there are inconsistent requirements between the states for initial identity verification. There's also insufficient verification of identity documents that people present when they go to get a license."

The bill would also earmark $315 million in federal funds to help pay for the transition to the new licenses and to set up links between state computer systems. Linking the computers is necessary, proponents say, so that states can check if the person applying for a driver's license was denied a license in another state.

These provisions in the bill track closely with a proposal by the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, which has long supported standardized licenses and has been pushing to set criteria for "breeder" documents like birth certificates and to link state computer systems.

The total cost of the links and other enhancements could be substantial. In 1997 the Social Security Administration published a report saying that the cost to issue an enhanced Social Security card, an idea similar in many ways to the enhanced driver's licenses, would range from $3.8 million to $9.2 billion, depending on the type of card.

Issuing a Social Security card with a computer chip and a biometric identifier to 277 million people was estimated to cost $7.3 billion, a figure deemed "reasonable" by the General Accounting Office in 1998.

The AAMVA proposal would cover some 250 million people, including Canadians, in the system.

One aspect of the new bill that may not mesh well with AAMVA's vision, however, is the use of the driver's license for other than driver identification.

Jay Maxwell, AAMVA executive director, told UPI at a mid-April conference, that dual-use cards can create a problem with who owns the license and its use for driving enforcement.

What would happen, said Maxwell if a policeman had to take your driver's license and it was also your ATM and credit card?

Such a problem would only impact the worst drivers, stressed Shane Ham, a senior policy analyst at the Washington-based Progressive Policy Institute, who said that this was a very small number of users. He added that there might be other ways around the problem.

"In theory the cards could also be structured in such a way that revoking your driving privileges is just a change that is downloaded onto the chip itself without actually yanking the card back," said Ham.

He also stressed that use of the enhanced driver's license for private-sector services is strictly voluntary.

"It would be completely optional if the card holder wanted to put something else on their driver's license," said Ham. "As far as anyone's concerned, you could pretend that the chip was not there."

"If the purpose of this card is domestic security or it is national security or it is to screen terrorists, then there is no reason for it to be designed from the beginning to be interoperable with private sector entities," pointed out Lee Tien, senior staff attorney with the San Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation.

"The real thrust of the private-sector interoperability is so that the ID card or driver's license will be even more useful to commercial entities in terms of tracking consumers, doing consumer profiling, telemarketing -- all those kinds of things that people currently consider to be an invasion of privacy," Tien said.

The density of information on the cards makes them a target, a "honey pot" for people trying to steal data, said Ari Schwartz, associate director at the Washington-based Center for Democracy and Technology. Supposedly secure chips on smart cards have already been hacked, said Schwartz.

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These provisions in the bill track closely with a proposal by the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, which has long supported standardized licenses and has been pushing to set criteria for "breeder" documents like birth certificates and to link state computer systems.

I will post the text of the bill when it becomes available. In the meantime, in this post you'll find the AAMVA details.

Congress eyeing uniform driver's license standards - NATL Database of drivers and Biometrics


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government
KEYWORDS: aamva; billofrights; biometrics; jamesmoran; moran; privacylist
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1 posted on 05/01/2002 7:07:57 AM PDT by boston_liberty
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2 posted on 05/01/2002 7:09:31 AM PDT by boston_liberty
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To: boston_liberty
I have hated Moron for a while and now I add little Davis to my list.

"As far as anyone's concerned, you could pretend that the chip was not there."

While we are all pretending not to have chips, I'll pretend to vote for them.

3 posted on 05/01/2002 7:14:46 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: boston_liberty
Reps. Jim Moran, D-Va., and Tom Davis, R-Va.

Ooooh, isn't that cute! More RINO's helping their good pals the dems run all over privacy.

Needless to say, I'll never submit to this.

4 posted on 05/01/2002 7:14:52 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: boston_liberty;phasma proeliator
Why is it that in a somewhat paranoid society we can pursue and achieve standardized driver's licenses on a federal level but the same thing can never seem to happen with gun licenses? Somewhat ironic.
5 posted on 05/01/2002 7:15:27 AM PDT by da_toolman
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To: da_toolman
but the same thing can never seem to happen with gun licenses

It's that pesky little 2nd Amendment thingy.

6 posted on 05/01/2002 7:18:17 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: CJ Wolf
"I have hated Moron for a while and now I add little Davis to my list."

I'm NO RELATION to the guy. And next time we have a Family Reunion, I'll tell him that! ;-)

7 posted on 05/01/2002 7:20:38 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: boston_liberty
The objective of the legislation is to prevent identity fraud and enhance national security...

If my government really was concerned about enhancing national security they would close the boarders, deport illegals, and stop importing a new class of people who will, in the aggregate, vote for higher taxes, gun control, and more benefits.

The real point of this act is to give some company a guv contract, and two, control and track the population. I wonder what the counter to this is?

8 posted on 05/01/2002 7:20:49 AM PDT by joeyman
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To: boston_liberty
Notice the words, "NATIONAL ID CARD" are nowhere to be found in the article, when in reality, that is exactly what it is talking about.
9 posted on 05/01/2002 7:21:22 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: da_toolman
but the same thing can never seem to happen with gun licenses?

Well I don't know what state you live in' but we don't have such lisc's here in Washington. Standardization would require one, and that's another thing I don't want to see happen.

10 posted on 05/01/2002 7:24:31 AM PDT by joeyman
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To: boston_liberty
I don't mind a new type drivers liscense with my finger prints, but I don't particularly care for a chip it to monitor where i'm at & what i'm doing. Even though i'm for keeping America safe & secure they are slowly turning us into a police state and that cannot be tolerated. What's the answer? Who knows, but punishing the people that they're trying to protect is not the answer.
11 posted on 05/01/2002 7:26:17 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: boston_liberty
Whatever you do, DO NOT put your new ID in the microwave. It would sizzle, fizzle and arc just like a compact disk ;)
12 posted on 05/01/2002 7:30:10 AM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: boston_liberty
If they really wanted to make this crap more palatable (pass the salt!), they would have those chips indicate whether one was a convicted felon, or otherwise disqualified from possessing a firearm. If not, a gun shop could scan the card to verify, and sell a gun for cash with no record keeping.

Similarly, the card would act as a defacto CCW, perhaps with an endorsement stored to indicate that a handgun safety class certification had been received.

Alternatively, we could simply have liberty and anonymity.

13 posted on 05/01/2002 7:30:54 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: HELLRAISER II
21st century crooks need to be fought with 21st century tools. We need to get out of the stoneage in our fight against the bad guys.
14 posted on 05/01/2002 7:31:27 AM PDT by joyful1
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To: asformeandformyhouse;joeyman;da_toolman
Exactly - it is a second ammendment thing...

we all have the right to keep and bear arms - if the feds won't allow us to do that without a permit - then there needs to be a federal concealed carry permit (I think that is toolman's point).

15 posted on 05/01/2002 7:33:55 AM PDT by phasma proeliator
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To: boston_liberty
He also stressed that use of the enhanced driver's license for private-sector services is strictly voluntary.

Just like your SSN # which is also completely voluntary.

Give the government an inch and they will certainly take a thousand miles !!!

16 posted on 05/01/2002 7:33:56 AM PDT by unixfox
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To: joyful1
These measures change America into something not worth defending, or even living in.

Besides, as you already know, suicide bombers don't care if their identity is known.

Even Mohammed Atta had a valid VA drivers license with his picture. Having his fingerprints wouldn't have changed a thing.

17 posted on 05/01/2002 7:36:36 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: phasma proeliator
Thanks for the clarification. However, I don't feel I need to ask the government's permission to protect myself and my family. If this gets me in trouble, so be it.
18 posted on 05/01/2002 7:36:51 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: HELLRAISER II
I don't mind a new type drivers liscense with my finger prints,

With all due deference, the current biometric identifier - a photograph - is plenty sufficient for ID purposes related to driving. Fingerprints add nothing to that purpose since they cannot be verified as easily or as quickly as a simple facial photo.

That said, the notion of having a private/public sector chip on any government-issued ID is completely intolerable.

The embarrassment of having 1/2 of the 9/11 terrorists using phoney Virginia ID may have led to the unholy Moran/Davis alliance, but from my point of this is a creepy proposal that is a direct attack on freedom in America.

19 posted on 05/01/2002 7:37:42 AM PDT by angkor
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To: boston_liberty
The "Progressive Policy Institute" ... LET'S ROLL, comrade!
20 posted on 05/01/2002 7:38:14 AM PDT by Askel5
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