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Judge Tosses Out Perjury Indictment Against College Student Who Knew 2 Alleged 9/11 Hijackers
New York Daily News ^ | 4/30/02 | LARRY NEUMEISTER

Posted on 04/30/2002 12:39:14 PM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: FreeTally
then they should have deported him,

How do you know he's not a citizen?

21 posted on 04/30/2002 1:27:53 PM PDT by miamimark
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To: FreeTally
They would not want to deport terrorists or known accomplices in order to obtain information from them. Simply deporting them doesn't make any sense from a security standpoint. Also ... Ashcroft is good decent man. What's your beef with him?

This case illustrates the problem with liberal judges. They don't have a lick of common sense. Even with 9/11 they still don't get it.
22 posted on 04/30/2002 1:29:23 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: thinden
"interesting perspective on the law & the appoinment."

My neck hurts.

23 posted on 04/30/2002 1:30:33 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: areafiftyone
The law allows Ashcroft to deport any immigrant.

It does not allow Ashcroft to detain any person, without charges, for as long as he likes.

Ashcroft should try obeying the law, if he wants to distinguish himself from his predecessor (which he hasn't so far.)

25 posted on 04/30/2002 1:41:08 PM PDT by dead
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To: freeperfromnj
How do you think this decision will affect other detainees being held under similar circumstances?

Sorry...I can't give a real opinion as I'm not a lawyer and "haven't even played one
on television".
I was just being "snippy" in pointing out that the judge was a Clinton appointee.

But...once somebody like this has been picked up and it's a matter of public record,
especially if their face is splashed around by the media, I suspect that their
use as a terrorist operative probably goes about to zero.
Partly because they must presume that their every step and every word they speak is being
monitored after they are released.
(I'm not in law enforcement either...so that's just my naive guess.)
26 posted on 04/30/2002 1:41:18 PM PDT by VOA
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To: FreeTally
"Bottom line, they will not deport these KNOWN TERRORISTS for a reason. What is it?"

Embarassing Question.

27 posted on 04/30/2002 1:43:09 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: areafiftyone
Hon. Shira A. SCHEINDLIN
United States District Judge

Daniel Patrick Moynihan United States Courthouse
500 Pearl Street, Room 1050
New York, New York 10007-1312
(212) 805-0246

Courtroom 12C
Deputy (212) 805-0120

28 posted on 04/30/2002 1:45:18 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: areafiftyone
For Immediate Release
July 28, 1994

PRESIDENT CLINTON NOMINATES THREE FEDERAL JUDGES

The President today announced the nomination of Diana E. Murphy to serve on the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit. The President also named the following two individuals to serve on the federal district bench: Dominic J. Squatrito for the District of Connecticut and Shira A. Scheindlin for the Southern District of New York.

"These nominees have demonstrated outstanding legal ability and a commitment to justice for all," the President said. "I am sure they will be of great service to our Nation's courts."

Diana E. Murphy, 60, currently serves as Chief Judge for the U.S. District Court for the District of Minnesota.

Ms. Murphy began her legal career as an associate with the Minneapolis law firm of Lindquist & Vennum. From 1976 to 1978, she served as Hennepin County Municipal Judge and from 1978 to 1980, she served as a Judge for the Minnesota District Court.

In 1980, President Carter appointed Diana Murphy to serve on the U.S. District Court for the District of Minnesota. She has been Chief Judge since 1992. She is past president of the Federal Judges Association and past chair of the board of the American Judicature Society. She currently serves on the boards of the Federal Judicial Center and the Federal Judges Association.

Ms. Murphy earned a B.A. degree from the University of Minnesota. She also studied at the Johannes Gutenberg University in Germany on a Fulbright Scholarship and pursued graduate studies in history at the University of Minnesota. Murphy received a J.D. degree from the University of Minnesota Law School. Murphy and her husband, Joseph E. Murphy, Jr., have two sons and live in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

Upon confirmation, she would become the first woman to serve on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit. The Eighth Circuit has 11 judgeships and hears cases from Arkansas, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota and South Dakota.

Dominic J. Squatrito, 55, has practiced law with the Manchester, Connecticut firm of Phelon, Squatrito, Fitzgerald, Dyer & Wood since 1966. He is a former President of the Manchester Bar Association and a former Chief Counsel for the Connecticut State Senate. Mr. Squatrito received a B.A. degree from Wesleyan College and a J.D. degree from Yale Law School. He and his wife, Carla Squatrito, have two children.

Shira A. Scheindlin, 47, is a partner with the Manhattan law firm of Herzfeld & Rubin. Prior to joining that firm, she was a partner with the firm of Budd Larner Gross Rosenbaum Greenberg & Sade. Previously, Ms. Scheindlin served as a U.S. Magistrate Judge and as an Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York. She received a B.A. degree from the University of Michigan, an M.A. degree from Columbia University, and a J.D. degree from Cornell Law School.

29 posted on 04/30/2002 1:51:03 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: wirestripper
Agreed on both points. I think they were willing to risk some convictions or indictment's being overturned due to their agressiveness in order to prevent attacks. Even if we let a few of the bad guys go they will be monitor.. they'll have no luck forming their cells back together. We busted them and their rings.. they'll have to start from scratch again. On the other side this is the right decision for the court to make now that I've thought about it a little more simply because this would be a huge violation of every american's civil liberties if the judge upheld it.
30 posted on 04/30/2002 1:59:27 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: FreeTally
I'd like you to tell me why he lied.
31 posted on 04/30/2002 2:08:10 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: rdavis84
Perhaps before they get around to deporting them...maybe the JD wants to know what they know? Could that be why they are slow in deporting them? It makes sense to me. Duhhhhh.
32 posted on 04/30/2002 2:09:29 PM PDT by Rockiesrider
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To: areafiftyone
This guy's name and phone number were found in Alhazmi's Toyota Corolla that was left in the Dulles parking lot.
33 posted on 04/30/2002 2:12:08 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: FreeTally; thinden
My Neck Hurts.
34 posted on 04/30/2002 2:12:14 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: FreeTally
I've noticed, as a rule, that the folks who use "Free" or "Patriot" in their monikers are the biggest pantloads on this forum.
35 posted on 04/30/2002 2:12:39 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Tai_Chung
Last year, Congress passed a law that bans the sale or rental of "sexually explicit" magazines, videos and recordings on military bases and ships. Congress paraded the law under the title of The Military Honor and Decency Act.

On Jan. 22, Judge Shira Scheindlin of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York -- in a ringing defense of the First Amendment -- found the act unconstitutional and struck it down.

The act was sponsored by conservative Congressmen Christopher H. Smith (R-N.J.) and Roscoe G. Bartlett (R-Md.) and former Congressman Robert K. Dornan; and supported by the Christian Coalition, the Traditional Values Coalition, the Family Research Council, and other conservative groups.

The rest of the story

Judge Scheindlin has worked on some interesting cases, including that of an INS employee who paid dearly for "whistle blowing" on corruption and reverse discrimination here

36 posted on 04/30/2002 2:15:31 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: VOA
The INS issued new docs to at least two of the hijackers, Mohammed Atta and another, after they were dead. Mohammed Atta's name is infamous. Still, he gets through the cracks.

I have no confidence in the governments ability to keep track of someone who doesn't want to be kept track of. The FBI and other law enforcement agencies are barely able to do it, when they are focused.

37 posted on 04/30/2002 2:15:39 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: areafiftyone
The judge cited several factors showing that Awadallah’s consent to go with FBI agents to their office and later submit to a lie detector test was the “product of duress or coercion.”

She said the agents repeatedly made a show of force by telling him he could not drive his own car, refused to let him inside his apartment, ordered him to keep a door open as he urinated and engaged in a “flagrant violation of the Fourth Amendment” by repeatedly frisking him.

Moreover, she said, one agent even threatened to “tear up” the apartment during a search.

Scheindlin’s ruling followed a February hearing in which federal agents and Awadallah testified about the circumstances of his arrest.

Reading this, it seems to me that it was the FBI who blew this one… but that’s no big surprise. The judge may be a Klintoon flack but I tend to agree that she is most likely right in here legal interpretation and is the FBI who we should be pointing the fingers at.

38 posted on 04/30/2002 2:17:07 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: ecomcon
they don't seem to be worried about the mans lies,deport him and be done with it.
39 posted on 04/30/2002 2:17:33 PM PDT by linn37
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To: browardchad
Oops - bad links.

Corrections: The rest of the story

INS case here

40 posted on 04/30/2002 2:27:04 PM PDT by browardchad
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