Thong-Wearing Teens Kicked Out Of Dance

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[KneelBeforeZod]

Thong-Wearing Teens Kicked Out Of Dance

A group of parents are calling for the resignation of Rancho Bernardo High School's vice principal, claiming she enforced underwear checks at a school dance, 10News reported.

The dance occurred Friday and vice principal Rita Wilson turned away girls who were wearing thongs, the parent said.

Kim Teal is among the several parents angry with Wilson (pictured, right).

"First thing (my daughter) said when she got into the car was, 'Mom, it was horrible last night. You have to fight this,'" Teal told 10News.

According to parent Alane Garvik, girls who arrived at the dance wearing short skirts were immediately asked: "What kind of underwear do you have on?"

When Garvik's daughter red-facedly announced that she was wearing thong underwear she was told to "go home and put on appropriate underwear," according to Garvik.

Teal's daughter made it in and claims to have witnessed faculty lifting the skirts of girls to assure that the offending underwear was going nowhere near the dance floor.

"Well, I just saw ... a line of people and the vice principal, Mrs. Wilson, she was checking to see what the girls were wearing under their dresses. And she was literally lifting up their skirts and embarrassing them in front of everyone else," one student told 10News.

Parents and students have placed the blame on Wilson, for spearheading the thong underwear checks, even though there is nothing in the school dress code against them.

"It's not their right to know what kind of underwear these kids have," Garvik told 10News.

10News contacted school officials, who all declined to go on camera. But Principal Paul Gentle did say that he is "looking into the situation."

Parents are now asking for Wilson to resign.

Gentle said that even while enforcing the school dress code, it is not proper procedure to ask students what they are wearing underneath their clothes.

He told 10News that he plans to meet with parents sometime this week.

[FreeTally]

Because that's not statist enough . . .

Well, it almost sounds like the vice principal just wanted to look at high school girls' panties, but I could be way off....

[tomkat]

you're welcome to get in on that bet too.
$100 = 'no compelling state interest'.

hmmmmm ??

[mutchdutch]

Some of the people posting here are just as bad as the liberals........Anything goes.

Reminded me of high school where it was a constant battle of the principal to get us to tuck our shirtails in. It was a constant battle but in the end he was trying to teach us to take pride in ourselves and how we looked......to this day I still tuck my shirt tails in. Didn't hurt us a bit and we didn't have any namby pamby parents challenging him.

[Kaslin]

"But if thongs are appropriate attire for the White House,

They might have been when Bubba was in the White House, but I doubt they are now

[krogers58]

This thread presently is long on "knee jerk" and totally devoid of thought. There might have been a better way to accomplish the check, but I like the basic precaution.

To brand others arguments as "knee-jerk", is to diminish your own argument, since you do not refute the other's opinions with logical arguments. My position is that this is entirely an inappropriate abuse of power. This vice-principal decided to create a new dress code, without approval of the local school board. Clearly, beyond her scope of authority. Secondly, the school board, in its wisdom, realized that there is no legal way to enforce what underwear that students wear to dances, or to school. No court in the nation would tolerate this encroachment on personal liberty. This is actually very insightful, in that, it indicates the mindset of the PC left these days, in that they think they can make, and enforce the most ridiculous of laws and regulations. Don't get me wrong, if these girls began to expose their bare-bottoms, they would then be in violation of public indecency laws, which are already on the books.

[tomkat]

have helped raise two, thanks.
am 46.

[DAnconia55]

#57 ... nice reply.

[mhking]

If I find a principal asking my daughter to pull up her skirt so she can check to see if she is wearing thong underwear or any other kind of underwear, that principal has got a fight on his or her hands.

I don't care if there is some sort of school code in play here - making that kind of request is a form of child abuse as far as I am concerned.

That Assistant Principal would be living out of a shopping bag under a freeway overpass by time my lawywer and I were finished with them.

[general_re]

I think that any case the students or their parents bring is a real long shot - it's pretty clear that the actions of the school were legal. That being said, I still don't think it was a very good idea, but it was almost certainly legal.

So, how are you guys going to settle up the bet if it never makes it into a courtroom in the first place? I'm betting that the parents will call a lawyer and he'll tell them their odds are so long that they might as well forget it ;)

[realpatriot71]

You guys should get together, find some girls, have some kids, and get back to this topic when you are about 30-35, and have actually lived in the real world.

You're right I don't have any kids, so there is an element here that I admittedly won't quite understand until I do have kids, fair enough, but I have spent time in the "real world". I have no problem with schools setting standards. In fact, I think setting an appropriate skirt level is not only fine, but a very good idea. However, what kind of underwear a girl is wearing is none of the school's business, and girls who wear thongs are not sluts because they do wear a thong.

[general_re]

you're welcome to get in on that bet too.
$100 = 'no compelling state interest'.

I want in - the compelling state interest is the school's interest in maintaining order and discipline, as per Hazelwood.

Be careful - this might turn out to be an expensive thread for you ;)

[r9etb]

Let's see now -- high school girls in short skirts and thong underwear at a dance. I rather doubt that a girl has any reason for doing this other than providing easy access.

And the fact that the principal is checking at all suggests that "easy access" has already become a problem.

At any rate, the lady's right: that kind of clothing has no place at a public event for kids.

[tomkat]

if i lose, all i'll need is an adress to send a check to.
will happily provide same should i find my AR bumped by a hundred ...

[hobbes1]

have helped raise two, thanks. am 46.

My apologies. your position here belies a youthfulness that doesn't exist...

[hobbes1]

#57 ... nice reply.

Yeah..Real astute. apparently you hadn't gotten to #78 yet.

[tomkat]

$200's my limit, but since hobbes1's lack of commitment is showing, you're on.
we can make it personal, as per above, or send the proceeds to FR.
y'all call it ...

[hobbes1]

You have already lost. He pointed that out in #78. But it can be settled right here. Ping a lawyer.

[Jasper]

Snarf queen.