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To: MonroeDNA
Smedley believes that the abused boys are partially at fault.

Paraphrase me accurately you cretin. I wrote that some of the abused teenagers were partially at fault, particularly those who allowed themselves to be orally sodomized "dozens and dozens and dozens of times" over long periods of time without a word of protest.

112 posted on 04/30/2002 8:04:23 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
"...I wrote that some of the abused teenagers were partially at fault, ..."

And I had written, "Smedley believes that the abused boys are partially at fault."

Smedleybutler believes that some of the boys (sodimized again and again by Catholic Priests) are partially at fault. They were not inoocent. They could have prevented it, if they wanted to. But they didn't. Therefore, some of them wanted it. Right, Smedly? I can quote you again, ya know, from your perevious posts.

I believe I have hit a nerve with Smedleybutler. Are you a Cardinal or Bishop, by any chance?

113 posted on 04/30/2002 5:39:12 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
That's like saying that a wife who lets her husband have sex with her even if she doesn't want to is partially guilty for being raped. That's nuts...
114 posted on 04/30/2002 5:42:57 PM PDT by marajade
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Let's look at another post which you tried to weasel your way out of:

(MonroeDNA) Let me ask you a simple question: If I robbed a 12 year old, and that 12 year old didn't fight back, is that person partially at fault?

(Smedley) "Let me give you a simple answer that your gray matter may be able to comprehend. If the 12 year old allows you to rob him dozens and dozens and dozens of times then he's an enabler."

(MonroeDNA) Way to duck the question. I again ask you, "Yes," or "No," If I robbed a 12 year old, and that 12 year old didn't fight back, is that person partially at fault?

Yes or no?

You still can't (won't) answer that, right? It leads to the slippery slope of you getting out of the gray, and calling evil, "evil." Can't have that, can we? Good God, if we all had to look into the mirror and say something is just plain evil, why, we might not like ourselves or something, right, Smedley? Hitting more nerves? lol!

Well, Smedley, yes or no?

OK, I get your logic...it depends on the number of times I rob her. How many is too many, before she is partially responsible? 30? 20? 10? 1?

What if I was in an "all powerful" position of authority? What if I were her trusted counselor, and all I did was ask for a "loan?"

Let's clarify: What if a child beleives with all his heart that a Priest is the "ultimate" authority, second only to God? (never mind how THAT happened). Just assume this situation can occur (Alter Boys and Priests--trust me, it is true). What if this child thinks that he can live forever if he is holy enough, and the Priest is his guide. And then the Priest comes on to him gently, and then molests him regularly.

You are a young boy who believes in God with all your heart, but have many questions. The Priest is the ultimate authority, and has all the answers. You want to go to heaven. You are alone with the Priest on many, many occasions, and feel very special for being chosen to do so. You are the envy of your friends. You are often in dark places, with the Priest, with no chance of anyone finding you two together. Under the shadow of God, in a holy place, sith the person you admire most, alone, sacred, dark, holy, he manipulates you (you're 12), guides you, convinces you, and finally he is sodomizing you. All in the name of the Lord.

You can't go against him in any way, he is too powerful. You doubt yourself greatly. It goes on and on. You hide it, and feel ashamed. You avoid him, but there is no avoidance without losing your priveledges. Is it your fault? Perhaps you might kill yourself? Look around you.

Let me put it to you straight: How many times must a boy be anally raped before it is partially his fault? Once? Five times? Thirty times? But you won't answer that question, either, because of your guilt. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

115 posted on 04/30/2002 6:08:22 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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