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To: betheejaymes; WhiteyAppleseed
Land-use control scams such as Agenda21, HCPs, Smart Growth, Sustainable Development, and Growing Smarter, are all out of the same place: the UN. What they promise is "controlled development," literally meaning that the land will be stolen from its owners at rock bottom prices using preferential enforcement of regulation, and the politically favored will be able to develop all they want. It's development to the tastes of the rich at the expense of what little will remain of the middle class. The rest will be slaves to their rents.

Meanwhile, who takes care of the land? You seem to think that it takes care of itself or that it shoud perhaps be done by central planning from Gland Switzerland? That's what you are getting from the IUCN (the globalists' EPA) and it's total crap. Centralized planning is no more capable of land use optimization than it is of running an economy. Nature is too complex for that kind of decisionmaking system. and please don't blather to me about consensus processes of stakeholders, it never works out that way. I've been there, and btw, please consider the sources of that disappearing desert crap. There is so much dishonesty among the environmental movement that you would puke if you knew. Many of those groups are funded by developers, or did it occur to you that the American Planning Association only makes money on new houses?

There are better ways to manage growth and best consider the balance of risks between concentrated urban development, rural sprawl, resource development, and habitat management than relying upon political favoratism, corruption, and bureaucracy. That is why I wrote a book on it, because the environment is too important to be run by politics.

6 posted on 04/26/2002 10:40:15 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
Oops, where did I say I thought help would come from the government? Why you can't even get a good civil liberities attorney in this country anymore. Used to could find one or two on college campus' around DU and CU. The government has truly outgrown its purpose, out of control are some of the employees and worst of all, the general public either does not care, does not involve them (let the cops do their job is what they think they are promoting), too young to understand or be informed. Yes, I believe the potential for disaster and distruction can always be overcome. Timing is everything, attitude makes it all work. Most Americans don't know how to conserve, nor do they have respect for nature. They have to conquer, control, capture. In just a little over 200 years the white man (or whoever? non-natives came along) has accomplished to rid America of Her Native Children, the Buffalo and the middle class family (that was created here, in the USA). California has always acted so uptidy, rich, leaders in American dreams. So, why did they run out of power last year. What are the plans this year? Where do you fit in the revolution? Mine is "Roadside Revolution" with BetheeJaymes and TheHoleInTheHead Gang. We have a Red Dawn plan but also peaceful resolutions to for today's delima's and tomorrow and the next day and so on. My family has four generations living in Apache Junction, and still growing. I am teaching my grandchilren how to garden, and my daughter how to can/preserve. I am anxious to read your book. Sincerely, Bethee
8 posted on 04/27/2002 3:23:29 AM PDT by betheejaymes
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