Saudis tell Bush to moderate Israel support or face "Grave Consequences"!

The Muslim News ^ | 25-04-2002 | By Randall Mikkelsen

[desertcry]

Hey, let them spend the money. Our economy can use it, besides it's one compensation for their high price oil.

[JZoback]

I would love to think George Bush told the "Prince" to kiss his shiney white butt

I wouldn't put any money on it, though.

Betcha Powell got his lip balm out just in case George asked him to kiss the Prince's butt instead.

[ClancyJ]

He did not have the staying power to win the war.

Guess you don't know the man.

Bush is a man who will look at all options and take the best one for the U.S. What makes you think that going in and continually demanding all other countries to do your bidding will win anything? A president has a lot of responsibility to lead the country SAFELY where he wants to take it. Safely often means putting your own wants aside to do what is best for the final outcome. Fortunately we don't have a president that handles all situations with his wants and his ego as top priority. This is a man.

[ClancyJ]

If Bush is as oil crazy and concerned about his oil friends as you say - why didn't he stay in the oil business?

This is the same old junk the democrats drag up - Bush and oil friends. Do you really believe that junk? Maybe Bush is looking at the ecomony of the whole nation - which is what he is paid to do. If he didn't bail out Enron - don't think he will handle the Middle East to protect an oil friend.

[desertcry]

Japan threatened us........Please be patient, you will likely get your wish, although you might not like the results. The pain will not only visit the saudis and the rest of the arab states, it will certainly visit us aswell. The economy will go bust, no jobs, no gas, no food on the table,...... I'm very far from being a peacenik, but war should only be a diplomatic tool of the last resort, like our very survival is at stake?

[ClancyJ]

I don't know why in the world you people can't see that Bush is trying to avoid a Middle Eastern war that could easily get out of hand. How in the world do we get rid of Saddam and protect ourselves if we don't try and settle the uprising caused by Saddam to sidetrack us.

We will only help Israel by preventing them being attacked with nuclear weapons or by being overrun by a coalition of the Arab nations and Palestine. Just telling Israel to keep on fighting alone while Saddam incites the Arab countries against them to protect his own skin doesn't SOLVE anything.

Bush is getting a lot more intelligence information than we are, he has great experienced experts giving him advice and he is a strong leader not afraid of any of the terrorists or enemies.

I would suggest that people look at the situation and quit trying to make Bush into a Texan gunslinger instead of a U.S. President. We need a highly effective administration to get this solved for us.

[Alas Babylon!]

I'm very far from being a peacenik, but war should only be a diplomatic tool of the last resort, like our very survival is at stake?

Do you really not think it is? I for one think it is. And oil IS the life-blood of our economy. If it comes to it, we either go to war over oil or give up everything--our way of life, our economy, our military superiority--completely.

In the long run, I think a war with fundamentalist Islam is inevitable. In fact, we've been in one for decades. It's going to heat up, big time, though, before it's over. I just want us to win it.

[ClancyJ]

We best have a major/nuclear war NOW and redraw the Middle East maps once the dust settles

Are we a little gun happy here?

[dalebert]

This doesn't sound like the same meeting I saw.I don't think anyone told Bush much of anything.

[Eagle74]

Grave Consequences?

I keep hearing all about the arab street, and how it endangers the "Moderate" arab dictators. This is utter BS, no dictator is afraid of his subjects. All dictators rule with an iron hand, and are willing to slaughter thousands of their subjects, to retain power. Only when they lose the will to kill, does the street have a chance. For example, the Soviet empire after they released Poland, or the Shah of Iran when he stopped killing his political enemies. On the other hand, we have the King of Jordan who slaughtered thousands of Palistinians in 79', the Saudi's who slaughtered the moslem militants who took over in Mecca, and in Eygpt the president hunted down, tortured, and executed the moslem brotherhood, and these are the so called "moderates". The only thing dictators can be said to fear, is the ambitions of their family and their generals, or a pissed off democracy.

So I ask what consequences? Are the arab dictators going to start funding terrorism? Oh wait, they already do. Are they going to send their incompetent military's, after Israel or the US(not likely)? Unlike in '73', an oil embargo is no longer a viable weapon, due to strategic oil reserves, and massive oil producer debt. So what can they do?

[truth_seeker]

Before international outrage forced Bush to become involved with the Middle East, his Middle East policy consisted primarily of sending Ari Fleischer out to blame Bill Clinton. This Bush is pretty pathetic, is he not

So since you don't approve of Bush's policies towards the middle-east situation, what better policies do you propose?

[Texbob]

Excuses, Excuses, Excuses. What you mean is we have a man that does what he thinks is politicaly expedient for him.

[desertcry]

If you can not accept that then you are not a realist I was 5 years old when WWII started, and when my home town was blown to bits. I was one of the lucky ones who got away unharmed, though many of my relatives were not so lucky. So, REALISM is indeed a reality to me. Thus having felt the full fury of war, I'm one not very eager to get into one lightly. But having survived WWII, I also have learned that there is a point when one have to kill to survive. But before I'm forced to kill another human being, I will do my outmost to prevent it. Certainly, I will not kill if someone steps on my ego, I might throw a few light zingers, but that will be all. Nobody wins in an all out war, one can only minimize the loss. If you ask me, should America go to war with the saudis if they cause severe damage to our economy, then I will say, with all our might. But I pray that the USA is on the high moral ground when it happens.

[desertcry]

Please read my reply to sentryoveramerica. You maybe correct that islam will bring war to us, and one way that it can happen is if the islamic states uses oil as a weapon to destroy our economy. If the saudis do this, then America should fight them with all our might. I believe we will be in high moral grounds, and the country will be united in such a war. But the saudis are not stupid, at least I hope I'm correct in my assessment. The saudis know our capability(Desert Storm, Afghanistan) and President GWB. In fact, the saudis have already said that they will NOT use oil as a weapon, but we will have to wait and see. The islamist are not famous for keeping their words.

[cardinal4]

What's the angry Arab public going to do? Throw sand at us?

No,hijack airliners and fly them into buildings. Or strap bombs to their children for the purpose of killing other children. Or decapitate American reporters while they are still alive. Or.........