[Lorianne]

Actually, "whining and sitting on your @ss blaming others for your choices and feeling sorry for yourself" is an excellent definition of feminism!!!

I have to disagree. It took a lot of pro-active organization and work to get a lot of things changed. Things don't change by just sitting around doing nothing. Therefore that is not a good definition of feminism because even those who oppose feminism have to agree feminists have been very busy indeed the last 50 years.

As to whining about not having children, I suspect there aren't as many women whining about it as there are people who would like them whine so they can say: I told you so. For those who really are whining about their own decisions, neither side has much sympathy for them.

In any group of people (male or female) there are always a percentage who complain but do nothing, often don't even bother to vote. That's fine by me, it just gives others with the ability to formulate a plan and execute it more leverage. :-)

[The Giant Apricots]

It took a lot of pro-active organization and work to get a lot of things changed. Things don't change by just sitting around doing nothing. Therefore that is not a good definition of feminism because even those who oppose feminism have to agree feminists have been very busy indeed the last 50 years.

OK, fairly said, so I fairly cede the point.