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Iraq Massing 4 Divisions on Jordanian Frontier Border
World Net Daily.com and DEBKAfile Security and Terrorism Newsletter ^ | April 24, 2002 | Gioria Shamis and Diane Shalem (Former 'The Economist' Magazine Reporter-30 year yeteran)

Posted on 04/24/2002 8:46:56 AM PDT by codebreaker

DEKAfile's military sources provide details of the Iraqi troop movements.

The force Iraq started massing some weeks ago contains 3-4 of its 7 crack Republican Guard Divisions, which are stationed in the center of the country opposite the Jordanian frontier. They are fanned out across a 300 sq.km stretch of land, bounded by four bases:H-3 Main, H-3 Southwest, and H-3 Northwest-350 km. west of Baghdad-and the big al Baghdadi ground and air base west of town of Rutbah.

The Iraqi high command reckons the first American strike, carried out under the cover of bombing and missile barrage, will try and capture this area and take over the four bases-much in the way a main US base was set up in Kandahar, Afhganistan. From there the US forces will threaten the capital Baghdad.

The Iraqi response will be to divide their strength into two contingents. One leg by Saddam Hussein's son Qusay, will fall back towards Baghdad; the other will push into Jordan and sieze its eastern region, ready for an eventual move into the capital Amman. The Israeli troop concentration the Saudis are referring to-whose presence Israeli spokesmen deny-is poised to defend Jordan against this very Iraqi assault.

By his pincer movement, Saddam hopes to crush the American force, trapping it in a isolated pocket, vulnerable to a blitz of missiles carrying chemical and biological agents. Simultaneously, Iraqi missile barrages will be aimed at Israel and US military targets in the Jewish state, as well as American military facilities in the Gulf, Kuwait and Qatar.Iraq is also set to counter alternative US tatics. This week, Baghdad deployed heavy reinforcements of anti-air missile batteries in the southern and northern no-fly zones patrolled by US and British allied planes. This move was a preventative measure against a possible US attempt to sieze Iraq's northern and southern oilfields. The batteries are aimed not only against bombers but also large scale helicopter squadrons flying US and British Marines in from Kuwait, Oman or Turkey.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Political Humor/Cartoons; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: border; debka; iraq; israel; jordan; republicanguard; russia; waronterror
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To: tallhappy
Yes, Debka can take a story about routine Saudi troop exercises, build it into WWIII, and suckers like you believe it.

It never fails.

81 posted on 04/24/2002 11:06:09 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: TexKat
The Saudi troops realy are/were on the border. The Crown Prince was quoted as saying they were simply performing military training in the area.
82 posted on 04/24/2002 11:11:11 AM PDT by freeasinbeer
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To: Dog Gone
Yes, Debka can take a story about routine Saudi troop exercises, build it into WWIII, and suckers like you believe it.

No. The reason given yesterday was the same, concern over Iraq and Jordan.

Your viewpoint is very strange ion that you think it is a matter of "falling for it" like a "sucker".

83 posted on 04/24/2002 11:18:32 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
Don't you anti-Debka nutcases ever get tired of showing yourselves to be fools?

I make fun of a Debka fiction about the Iraqi military’s upcoming pincer tactics on US troops, and you respond with an article about Saudi troop movements from the Jerusalem Post?!?

Now I can see how Debka finds an audience. Do you color their articles?

84 posted on 04/24/2002 11:29:32 AM PDT by dead
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To: codebreaker
I'm glad he's stupid enough to think he can defeat the U.S. in mechanized warfare.
85 posted on 04/24/2002 11:31:45 AM PDT by Intimidator
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To: dead
I think your brain cells reflect your name well.

It is the same story. Saudi troops massed at the Jordan border.

True or false, believe it or not it is reported by a lot more than just Debka.

Brain dead buffoon. You let your petty bigotries overwhelm your clear thinking.

Knee jerk thinking on your part.

86 posted on 04/24/2002 11:37:37 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
(19:30) Saudi Arabia Masses Troops On Western Border Saudi Arabia has reportedly dispatched eight brigades to the Gulf nation's western border with Jordan.

The Saudis began redeploying troops upon receiving intelligence reports Israel is currently massing troops along its own eastern border with Jordan.

An IDF source has denied the Israeli troop reorganization.

(The Jerusalem Post's Felix Fish contributed to this report)

This is your "story". It is not even sourced - just "reported". Think for a moment - where did the Saudis get 8 brigades? If there really is 8 brigades massed on the border, why are there no first hand reports? Kinda hard to hide all those troops and their toys.

87 posted on 04/24/2002 11:45:20 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: tallhappy
You have to be the stupidest person I've yet encountered on this forum.

I very clearly highlighted the part of Debka's article that I thought was fanciful, prior to mocking it.

Your link to a story about Saudi's troop movements was completely irrelevant and anybody who is not a total retard, like yourself, can see that.

Wipe the drool off you chin, you simpleton.

89 posted on 04/24/2002 11:56:15 AM PDT by dead
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To: codebreaker
B-52 heaven!!
90 posted on 04/24/2002 11:56:46 AM PDT by rockfish59
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To: codebreaker

This is the general area discussed in your posting.

91 posted on 04/24/2002 12:06:03 PM PDT by StopGlobalWhining
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To: ContemptofCourt
Kinda hard to hide all those troops and their toys.

I never said anything about it's veracity.

My point is more than just Debka are reporting it.

92 posted on 04/24/2002 12:06:27 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: dead
You have to be the stupidest person I've yet encountered on this forum.

What is ironic is I am thinking that of you.

And obviously your logic is warped.

It is the same story, same issue, troop movements due to concern over Iraq acting against Jordan.

You pick only Debka to criticize.

93 posted on 04/24/2002 12:10:51 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: dead
I thought Iraq already invaded Jordan with 20,000 or so special forces types disgused in civilian clothes.

I see the insidious hand of Fu Manchu in this.

94 posted on 04/24/2002 12:11:00 PM PDT by lavrenti
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To: codebreaker
First of all our Stealth bomber can just go in and obliterate everything without be detected. Using ground troops would probably not be a possibility in the begining tlike they did in desert storm. They first killed off most of the aggression and sent ground troops to take the few remaining.
95 posted on 04/24/2002 12:11:49 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon Fan
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To: StopGlobalWhining
The town of Ar Rutbah and H-3 west of it are near the top right of the map. Rt. 30 in Jordan is a well maintained paved highway traveled extensively by oil tank trucks coming in from Iraq's Rt. 10. An open door to a fast invasion force.
96 posted on 04/24/2002 12:13:27 PM PDT by StopGlobalWhining
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To: tallhappy
Your point is stupid - read the Post story - it is not a report, but a repost of a rumor. And, if you question its veracity, then why are you supporting the DEBKA story?
97 posted on 04/24/2002 12:13:31 PM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: tallhappy
What is ironic is I am thinking that of you.

Actually, that is ironic, if you are an idiot who has no idea what the word “ironic” means.

It is the same story, same issue, troop movements due to concern over Iraq acting against Jordan.

That would be relevant if I had ever commented on that angle of the story. But since I only commented on Debka’s suggested military tactics for the Iraqi forces, it isn’t.

You pick only Debka to criticize.

Now I pick you to criticize, the only person I’ve seen who makes Debka look intelligent.

You should write for them. In crayon.

98 posted on 04/24/2002 12:20:24 PM PDT by dead
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To: ContemptofCourt
And, if you question its veracity, then why are you supporting the DEBKA story?

I'm not.

I am pointing out idiocy of knee jerk anti Debka idiots.

They pollute any thread having anyting to do with Debka.

They are obsessed with Debka.

As far as it? Are there Saudi troops at the Jordan border?

99 posted on 04/24/2002 12:20:30 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: dead
It is the same story, same issue, troop movements due to concern over Iraq acting against Jordan.

That would be relevant if I had ever commented on that angle of the story. But since I only commented on Debka’s suggested military tactics for the Iraqi forces, it isn’t.

OK. Thank you. You recognize I am correct.

Your comment about the pincers and some celebrity were trivial.

Do you see now? You contribute nothing but your own puerile shallow smarmy thoughts.

100 posted on 04/24/2002 12:24:22 PM PDT by tallhappy
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