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Top state court upholds Fairplex gun show ban
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 04-23-2002 | Troy Anderson

Posted on 04/23/2002 6:38:24 AM PDT by boris

Top state court upholds Fairplex gun show ban

By Troy Anderson

The California Supreme Court ruled Monday that Los Angeles County officials can ban the sale of guns and ammunition at the Fairplex in Pomona and other property owned by county government.

The court's 6-1 decision is expected to set off an avalanche of similar bans across the state. Representatives from at least 20 cities and counties filed briefs urging the justices to grant them such powers.

At a news conference, Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky said the decision was a victory for public safety in California.

"I don't think there is any other conclusion anyone can draw than if it's tougher for crooks to get their hands on illegal weapons ... people are incrementally safer in our county as a result," he said.

The ruling was the latest development in a three-year legal battle between the county and Great Western Shows Inc., which had rented the Fairplex four times a year for 22 years before the Board of Supervisors banned gun shows in September 1999.

Jeff Schenkel, a spokesman for Great Western Shows, said the battle will now continue in the federal court system.

"This lawsuit is by no means over. This is going back to federal court, where the key issues are the constitutional issues of free speech and equal protection, which is what this case is really about," he said.

Joe Waldron, executive director of the Citizens Committee for the Rights to Keep and Bear Arms, said Great Western Shows expects ultimately to prevail in its efforts to hold gun shows on public property.

"Federal courts in California and elsewhere have already ruled that gun shows are a protected form of commercial free speech," he said. "The California Supreme Court, with this decision, has cavalierly decided that the First Amendment does not apply to the Golden State after all."

In the wake of the North Valley Jewish Community Center shooting in 1999, the Board of Supervisors voted 3-2 to ban the sale of guns and ammunition on property owned by county government. The board also offered to give Fairplex $2.7 million in rent credits if Great Western Shows left.

In response to a lawsuit against the county, a federal judge ruled in favor of Great Western in late 1999, granting a preliminary injunction against implementing the ban.

County officials appealed to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco, which asked the California Supreme Court to decide whether state laws regulating the sale of firearms at gun shows pre-empt a county ordinance prohibiting gun and ammunition sales on county property. The federal appellate court also asked whether state law allows a county government to regulate the sale of firearms on its property located in a city.

In their 21-page decision, the California Supreme Court justices concluded that state law does not compel counties to allow their property to be used for the sale of guns and ammunition, and counties may regulate the sale of firearms on their property in a city if the county ordinance does not conflict with city law.

The justices wrote that the widespread availability of illegally obtained firearms greatly contributed to firearm deaths and hospitalizations in Los Angeles County, and they noted that a sting operation by the Department of Justice uncovered significant illegal gun trafficking at the gun show.

"It's a bazaar for any kind of weaponry you can think of -- bazookas, rocket launchers. You can just about cut a deal for any kind of weaponry," Yaroslavsky said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: california; guncontrol
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What chaps my hide is that even the good guys are reluctant to base their case on the Second Amendment. Notice the legal points raised by the gun show's lawyer, and those carefully omitted.

--Boris

1 posted on 04/23/2002 6:38:24 AM PDT by boris
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To: boris
Why don't they just call them Beany Baby/Nascar Collectable Shows?
2 posted on 04/23/2002 6:46:02 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: boris
BTTT JPFO,NRA Bump...Kalifornication.
3 posted on 04/23/2002 7:35:05 AM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: Shooter 2.5
"Why don't they just call them Beany Baby/Nascar Collectable Shows?"

I thought the same thing but probably not possible. Firstly, the promoter must have insurance and no insurer would stand for such shenanigans. Secondly, if sales of weapons occur, even at a "Barbie Doll Convention", the BATF and LEA agencies would quickly find out and come down hard.

See, when pols and police chiefs hold "no-questions-asked 'Gun Buybacks'" and don't do the necessary paperwork, that's OK...even though they are committing multiple federal felonies (or so it seems to a non-lawyer)...

Oh well.

--Boris

4 posted on 04/23/2002 7:50:35 AM PDT by boris
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To: boris
Sorry, I didn't mean to be taken seriously. The law is probably written in such a way that no firearms or firearms accessories can be sold on the premises. This is the same B.S. that they are trying to do in Dallas and Fort Worth. Now that Dallas has a former reporter and lib for a mayor, a gunshow ban is just beneath the horizon[even though she promised that such a thing would never happen. choke].
5 posted on 04/23/2002 8:21:05 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Shooter 2.5
Good G*d! Texas??? Remember the Alamo? That's revolting Shooter. Is this trend due to an influx of out of state liberals or something?
6 posted on 04/23/2002 8:56:43 AM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: sleavelessinseattle
No. It's still the old "we doing it for the children" BS. If I remember, she was "educated" in Madison, Wisconsin. She's a lib that will sweat all the little stuff and won't get anything done. Voters just don't pay attention to the local politics like they should and Texas is starting to be all hat and no cattle.
7 posted on 04/23/2002 9:19:03 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Shooter 2.5
sounds more like all pie and no cow. I tell you PC is the biggest threat to rational discourse this generation of people face. When lib Pali lovers state that a person's childhood excuses them for strapping bombs to Their children to kill other peoples' children, its time to say, "If they try it, I will shoot them both!" NOT "I feel your pain, how about some money, land, and a hunting license for People in the next county?"

getting off topic, there...You know, Talk radio personalities should be regular posters to Free republic...We have some radio folks in the PNW that are open to information about the Freep way to do things...you might get some media support by inviting your talk radio stations' people to a freep barby or something...Also Government Employee Shooting events are well attended out here...That can really put some umph in grass roots efforts. Vaya Con Dios muchacho!

8 posted on 04/23/2002 9:50:08 AM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: Shooter 2.5
See, I told you, join the Gun Show Protection Union. did you read the last post I sent you? www.gspu.org
9 posted on 04/23/2002 5:21:52 PM PDT by Gun Show Protection Union
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To: boris
"It's a bazaar for any kind of weaponry you can think of -- bazookas, rocket launchers. You can just about cut a deal for any kind of weaponry," Yaroslavsky said.

One of these days, Zev ought to attend a gun show while sober. OK... So that might not be as interesting going while looped on hallucinogens, but he'd get a more accurate picture of what goes on at a gun show.

By the way Zev, those weren't "rocket launchers" you were looking at; those were waxed soft drink cups over at the food concession.

10 posted on 04/23/2002 5:29:24 PM PDT by Redcloak
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