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WAS THERE A MASSACRE IN SREBRENICA? WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AND WHY?
Emperor's Clothes ^ | April 22, 2002 | Jared Israel, Nico Varkevisser

Posted on 04/22/2002 6:23:24 PM PDT by joan

The media is using the upcoming release of the Dutch government's report on Srebrenica and the resignation of the Dutch government to "atone" for the Dutch role in "letting Srebrenica happen," to broadcast massive amounts of sheer misinformation about what did in fact happen in the town of Srebrenica 7 years ago this July.

EMPEROR'S CLOTHES editor Nico Varkevisser in Amsterdam reports that Dutch Prime Minister Wim Kok had stated his intention to move out of national politics and into the International arena before the report was issued, that the resignation comes shortly before previously-scheduled national elections and that Kok staged this pseudo-resignation as a gift to NATO and the War Crimes Tribunal, in exchange for which Kok hopes to become a new star (like Javier Solana) on the International scene.

According to media descriptions of the report, which has not yet been published on the Internet but is available for around $200 (USD) - it is interesting that according to these media accounts, the report a) says a massacre happened, but b) apparently finds no leader responsible. (We say "apparently" because we have not been able, yet, to read the actual report.

On the one hand, this makes a mockery of The Hague "tribunal" charges against Milosevic. On the other hand, this conclusion is an absurdity. How can an army commit a massacre, and no leader is guilty? It would appear that the people who prepared the report may have compromised in a way, accepting the official NATO position that there was a monstrous massacre (without which NATO's entire stance in Yugoslavia is discredited) but avoiding the sticky question of attributing responsibility, which would require coming up with proof, which does not exist.

What really happened in July 1995 in Srebrenica? Here follow some articles critical of the official view, with brief descriptions.

1 - Jared Israel's "Five Years On & the Lies Continue" appeared two years ago as a full page ad in the Sydney Herald and the New York Post. The article, which can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/texts.htm
argues that it wasn't the Islamists but ordinary Serbian villagers who were slaughtered by the terrorists under Nasir Oric at Srebrenica. The Australian newspaper ad led to an intense debate on Australian Public Radio between Israel and the NY Times Srebrenica "expert" David Rohde.

2- David Rohde versus. Max Sinclair, Jared Israel and Prof. Drasko Jovanovic

David Rohde wrote the first Srebrenica (supposed) massacre story as a Christian Science Monitor reporter in 1995. By making loud (though unsubstantiated) accusations against the Bosnian Serbs he landed a spot at the NY Times from which perch he has been issuing fanciful Srebrenica updates at ever since.

The debate between EMPEROR'S CLOTHES and Rohde began with the publication of "Why has the War Crimes Tribunal suppressed testimony about Srebrenica?" by Max Sinclair and Jared Israel at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/sinclair/why.htm

David Rohde replied to Sinclair and Israel in an email which he sent to the distinguished physicist, Professor Drasko Jovanovic, with whom Rohde had been corresponding concerning Srebrenica. Go to
http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/inaccurate.htm

Jovanovic forwarded Rohde's comments to Sinclair and Israel who responded by email at
http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/reply.htm

Prof. Jovanovic also sent EMPEROR'S CLOTHES a short memoir concerning his experience as a boy in Nazi occupied Yugoslavia. which can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/letterj.htm
Here Prof. Jovanovic dealt with real genocide, as opposed to the Rohde's unsubstantiated claims.

Rohde then took his dispute with Emperor's Clothes to the pages of the NY Times, writing an article in which he omitted nothing other than Israel and Sinclair's actual arguments. Jared Israel replied to Rohde's Times piece at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/fulltext.htm

Prof. Jovanovic also replied, at
http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/farewell.htm

3 - In the article, "The Construction of a Trauma," René Grémaux and Abe de Vries are noncommittal about whether there was in fact a massacre, but their extensive documentation argues against.

Here you will find the statement of the Dutch-UN commander who says there was no massacre. He was immediately attacked in the Dutch press and silenced by the Army command. The article also contains some of the self-contradictory testimony from supposed witnesses. (We have uncovered much more, soon to be published.) This article can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/falsely.htm

4 - Sarah Standefer has written a sharp rebuttal to the Srebrenica argument which has been revived, as she points out, to suit NATO's current propaganda needs. See "Thoughts On Srebrenica " at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/standefer/hoax.htm

5 - Sinister Suggestion from a Surprising Source

Take a look at "Refuting the Srebrenica Myth: An Islamist Perspective," By Konstantin Kilibarda
The author quotes statements from embittered leaders of the Islamist forces in Srebrenica and from United Nations sources suggesting that Washington and Alijah Izetbegovic's Islamic fundamentalist government in Sarajevo conspired to fabricate a massacre story to foster international outrage at the Bosnian Serbs. Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/kilibarda/islamist.htm

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EMPEROR'S CLOTHES IS UNDER ATTACK!
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We need your help. EMPEROR'S CLOTHES is under attack for telling the truth.

A few days ago our Website hosting service received an email from Charles Russell, the law firm for ITN. ITN is the British TV news station responsible for distributing supposed news photos which falsely portrayed a Serbian refugee center in Bosnia as a death camp. EMPEROR'S Clothes exposed this lie in the video JUDGMENT. http://www.emperors-clothes.com/Film/judge.htm

In the email, ITN's law firm demanded that all mention of the video, JUDGMENT, be removed from the EMPEROR'S Clothes Website or ITN would sue our service provider for libel. The service provider has, quite bravely, refused to cave in.

Another Website was not so lucky. Www.sprksa-mreza.com is a vast storehouse of information about Yugoslavia. Its editors have contributed articles and shared their knowledge with EMPEROR'S Clothes. Srpska-mreza had posted several articles exposing ITN lies. ITN threatened Srpska-Mreza's Website hosting service as it had threatened ours. In response the hosting service shut down www.Srpska-mreza.com (a non-functional link since the website was shut down) this past weekend.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: balkans; dutchgovernment; srebrenica
EMPEROR'S CLOTHES editor Nico Varkevisser in Amsterdam reports that Dutch Prime Minister Wim Kok had stated his intention to move out of national politics and into the International arena before the report was issued, that the resignation comes shortly before previously-scheduled national elections and that Kok staged this pseudo-resignation as a gift to NATO and the War Crimes Tribunal, in exchange for which Kok hopes to become a new star (like Javier Solana) on the International scene.

See, it REALLY appears this is no skin of Wim Kok's back. In fact, he may be making a career move out of this false show of conscious.

1 posted on 04/22/2002 6:23:24 PM PDT by joan
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To: joan; Balkans; *Balkans
Balkans bump to you Joan!
2 posted on 04/22/2002 7:15:12 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: joan
Another Website was not so lucky. Www.sprksa-mreza.com is a vast storehouse of information about Yugoslavia. Its editors have contributed articles and shared their knowledge with EMPEROR'S Clothes. Srpska-mreza had posted several articles exposing ITN lies. ITN threatened Srpska-Mreza's Website hosting service as it had threatened ours. In response the hosting service shut down www.Srpska-mreza.com (a non-functional link since the website was shut down) this past weekend.

The shut-down of srpska-mreza--one of my favorite websites--IS A SHAME AND A TRAVESTY!!! I have been trying to connect to that site several times this weekend, and wondered what happened. I often used material from srpska-mreza's wonderful library to refute posts of "humanitarian warriors" on this site, or to educate Freepers new to Balkan issues.

Leave it to ITN--these greedy NWO media types aren't satisfied with having won their lawsuit with LM (which published the original article related to the subject of "Judgement")--they have to go after every little guy with a non-commerical website that keeps showing the TRUTH of ITN's fabrication of the "Bosnian Serb concentration camp". They're almost as bloodthirsty as their muslim savage pets!!!!

As for the "Srebrenica massacre"--its just one muslim lie piled upon another!!! Among many other things that it's designed to justify (including the extortion of Serbia to "cooperate" with the Hague) is the existence of that fleabag haven for terrorists and other muslim underminers--the islamic entity in Bosnia!!!!

3 posted on 04/22/2002 8:25:02 PM PDT by Honorary Serb
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To: Honorary Serb
I haven't followed this at all closely, but it sure sounds like the censors can't stand the heat. If they have truth on their side, they should just use that.

Our civilization takes a big step back when those in power don't have to use arguments.

4 posted on 04/22/2002 9:43:10 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: joan
Well, ITN has no qualms on relying on Stone Age British Libel laws bring people from all around the world to protect their 'prestiege' in the British Courts.

1: Watch the video (I myself saw Deichmann's presentation).

2: Read in detail about the case. Several credible witnesses for the defence (LM) such as John Simpson of the BBC (amongst others) were not allowed to testify before the court by the judge as his evidence (to paraphrase the judge) was not relevant to the case which was about casting aspersions on the charater of ITN through the journalists.

VRN

5 posted on 04/23/2002 3:25:14 AM PDT by Voronin
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