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Could this be the beginning of the end of the EU as a socialist power? Could this be the beginning of the end of the EU itself?
1 posted on 04/21/2002 8:41:02 PM PDT by Timesink
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It could very well be. Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is IMO, one of the best journalists in the world. He was the only one to REALLY go after Klinton before it was cool.
2 posted on 04/21/2002 8:46:20 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Timesink; Thinkin Gal; Jeremiah Jr; week71
The prophet Daniel said it all. In Dan.2, he said of the EU, Can Iron be mixed with Miry Clay?

They shall NOT CLEAVE ONE TO ANOTHER (despite any of various attempts to make them do so, that are shown...)

3 posted on 04/21/2002 8:47:28 PM PDT by crystalk
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Cycles.
4 posted on 04/21/2002 8:53:53 PM PDT by gcruse
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Obviously, European people have witnessed what mass Immigration and left wing politics have done to their nations. Finally, they have realized the error of their ways. Is it too late? Hopefully not for America. Apparently there are many people who do not agree with their left wing leaders. It is astonishing that a party that preaches tolerance shows none towards other points of view i.e. conservative Austrian party mentioned in this article. The same trend has begun in the United States as well.
5 posted on 04/21/2002 8:54:08 PM PDT by hawk1
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What is the deal on this French Le Pen?

All I can see is the terms: "hard right, reactionary, extreme right" everything just short of calling him a Nazi.

What is his platform?

6 posted on 04/21/2002 8:54:59 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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Don't count on it. By the time they're finished with him, people will think that Le Pen personally caused the Holocaust. And Chirac will be nothing more than the Schultz to his Colonel Klink...
7 posted on 04/21/2002 8:55:37 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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Even Holland, the model of easy-going tolerance, has fallen under the spell of Pim Fortuyn, an anti-Islamic populist who came from nowhere last month to take control of Rotterdam.

Pim Fortuyn is no extremist, he's a good man. The same cannot be said for Le Pen... the two are very different.

8 posted on 04/21/2002 8:58:35 PM PDT by xm177e2
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I want to know the difference between a right winger and a left winger when thy don't believe in our Constitutional government. To me, they are ALL traitors.
10 posted on 04/21/2002 9:01:11 PM PDT by Buckeroo
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I don't see it as a end. Just the political pendulum swinging as it must in a democratic form of government. It is swinging here too.
12 posted on 04/21/2002 9:02:40 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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No, and no. Both are far too entrenched. BUT, a slide to the right will lead to a rollback of policies that simply went too far. Even though Le Pen has no chance on May 5th, his "win" today will be another chink in the armor of socialist Europe.
22 posted on 04/21/2002 9:45:38 PM PDT by July 4th
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Could this be the beginning of the end of the EU itself?

I think it is. The fundamental problem is that people in the industrialized West are all so busy with economic endeavors that they are failing to replace themselves by having children. I don't think there's a single Western European country with a birth rate that approaches the level necessary to sustain a constant population. The result is a vacuum that sucks in humans from surrounding cultures to perform the less desirable jobs.

We are luckier than the Europeans because the people close enough to get sucked in by our own birth dearth are mostly Hispanic, and hence Christian. They basically have the same sorts of values we do. Plus, our immigrants do not arrive here on a mission from Allah to destroy us as infidels. Their immigrants do, and that's a big difference.

The debates we have here about whether Islam is a peaceful religion are academic compared to the ones going on now in Europe. They have huge sections of their cities full of Moslems, and the idea has now been planted in their heads that these people could turn into suicide bombers or worse.

So they are getting real upset with this, and they want their governments to stop the influx of these people, because they are starting to get scared.

Will this wake them up to the fact that their geography is being occupied by another people because they are not bothering to have and raise children? No, they'll blame the politicians, or the Moslems, or somebody else for the fact that Nature is quietly sweeping them from the planet, which is what Nature does to anything that doesn't reproduce.

This is probably hiccup one -- of three or four -- before the Europeans discover that they are outnumbered in their own countries and can no longer even set government policy.

In another hundred years or so, what's left of their culture will probably begin an exodus from Europe, with their first choice being the largest Christian country, los Estados Unidos de América. The Spaniards will get in; I'm not sure about the rest.


25 posted on 04/21/2002 10:07:16 PM PDT by Nick Danger
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Could this be the beginning of the end of the EU itself?

Let's hope so ---the pendulum is swinging back the other direction. No one but a certain group of elitists wants one-world government ---it's time it come crashing down.

28 posted on 04/21/2002 10:19:08 PM PDT by FITZ
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It needs to be said, again and again,

The NSDAP was the German acronym for "National Socialist Democratic Workers Party."

The English abbreviation of "NAZI" came from the word: "Nationalsozialistiche."

At its heart, it was:

1. Anti-Jewish

2. Anti-Christian

AND believed in supreame power of the central state, offering rights to certain "protected" classes while demonizing it oppostion.

Sound familiar?

29 posted on 04/21/2002 10:20:42 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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This article seems balanced and fair.

Are you SURE it's from a British paper?

>:P

39 posted on 04/21/2002 10:45:03 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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More good news:

Germany's political establishment is in uproar at the prospect of Italy's Silvio Berlusconi taking a significant stake in the German media as he and other tycoons, including Rupert Murdoch, circle the floundering Kirch newspaper and television empire. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/657041/posts

41 posted on 04/21/2002 11:05:58 PM PDT by LarryLied
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