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To: dennisw
The left made big hay for years of how it was the right that supposedly killed the Jews. But any look at history will show that the German Jews were hated because they were more successful than other peoples.

when a group of successful, mostly white, mostly Europeans, goes up against a bunch of mostly brown, third world, malcontented failures it's an easy guess who the Marxists will stick up for.

The mask is off. It was the left and class envy then that killed the German Jews, and it is the left and class envy on behalf of Arab malcontents that is keeping that same hatred alive today.

13 posted on 04/20/2002 9:20:09 AM PDT by liberalism=failure
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To: liberalism=failure
The left made big hay for years of how it was the right that supposedly killed the Jews. But any look at history will show that the German Jews were hated because they were more successful than other peoples.
Erm... any look at history will show it's a lot more complicated than that. I mean, non-successful Jews were rounded up too. Jewish factory-workers, Jewish cleaners, Jewish beggars. And there weren't very many rich non-Jews arrested. Indeed, the Nazis found powerful support amongst rich white Germans - business leaders, the artistocracy and what was left of their monarchy. Now, it's true that the Jews were scape-goated for the economic failure of Germany after WWI, and they also got some of the blame for failure in the war itself. Along with Freemasons, communists, socialists, and even homosexuals (to the extent that many left-wing members of the Wiemar republic were accused of being homosexuals by the Nazi party, at least). And, indeed, Jews were painted as inveterate socialists and communists (and many of them were socialists and communists - including some of those who went on to found Israel), Freemason was made synonymous with "Jew", and the homosexuals were poor innocent Germans corrupted by the Jew's assault on traditional Aryan family values.

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The mask is off. It was the left and class envy then that killed the German Jews,
Quite an achievement, given that virtually all left-wingers were imprisoned and/or shot before any move was made on the Jews, and given that the Jews weren't, in any way whatsoever, the ruling class in Germany. Where the Jews had had success was in small business. They were not amongst the aristocracy, they were not (with few exceptions) owners of factories of big business, they were not grand landowners or military leaders. The left were removed from positions of power as soon as Hitler took over (and he was able to take over by uniting the votes of various right-wing parties, and the centrist/liberal Catholic party, against the social democrats and communists), and class envy played no ostensible part in the persecution of the Jews. Jews were persecuted by their good Christian neighbours, by their employers, by the rich as much as (if not more than) the poor.

It's worth remembering how that famous text actually starts: "First they came for the communists, but I was not a communist, so I did nothing".
and it is the left and class envy on behalf of Arab malcontents that is keeping that same hatred alive today.
Forgive me, but, b*ll*cks. If that were the case, the first in the firing line would be the house of Saud. Especially since Israel is surely quite a left-wing country - take, for instance, the kibbutz(?sp) system, which is surely socialist.
27 posted on 04/20/2002 8:25:56 PM PDT by GCSmith
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