Seminaries Source of Scandals in Catholic Church

TCRNews.com ^ | April 19, 2002 | John Burger

[Bigg Red]

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[pt17]

Today, although most dioceses and seminaries screen candidates thoroughly, some observers question the value of the psychological tests given and caution that psychologists used by the Church do not all share the Church's understanding of human nature and sexuality

Does the Church (i.e., those at the top) have an understanding of of human nature and sexuality?

[johniegrad]

Yes. If you would like to know something about it, read the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It's better to post to a thread like this with some background than to suggest that you possess the keys to wisdom.

[pt17]

Yes. If you would like to know something about it, read the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It's better to post to a thread like this with some background than to suggest that you possess the keys to wisdom.

Two comments:

1. I was posing a question, plain and simple, for others. Did you take it as suggestive?

2. When I want to learn about the understanding of others, I'd rather draw my conclusions from behaviorial evidence rather than some written document, thank you. Words aren't worth the paper they're written on unless they are followed behaviorally.

[joesnuffy]

Guess Luther, Calvin et al may have been right after all?...:)

[johniegrad]

I was posing a question, plain and simple, for others

Yeah sure. How considerate of you.

When I want to learn about the understanding of others, I'd rather draw my conclusions from behaviorial evidence rather than some written document, thank you

In other words, you've never read the citation I provided you with. Oh, BTW, you're welcome.

[joesnuffy]

Blame it on the Bosa Nova

[johniegrad]

Actually, he's blaming it on the (anti)Vatican Rag.

[pt17]

In other words, you've never read the citation I provided you with.

Could it be that you've now made two erroneous assumptions?

[johniegrad]

No.

[Calculus_of_Consent]

Everyone keeps dancing around the truth here.

The primary cause of the disproportionate number of sodomite/pedophile priests in the Roman Catholic Church is probation against marriage. It isn't necessarily the Church going out of its way to recruit sodomites, but put yourself in the shoes of a good Catholic parent. You have 2, 3 or more sons. By age 13 or 15 one of those sons has not expressed any interest in girls and your others sons have plenty to tell in confession.

Which son, do you encourage, to be a priest?

[pt17]

You'd be wrong, then. Good by.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

2. When I want to learn about the understanding of others, I'd rather draw my conclusions from behaviorial evidence rather than some written document, thank you. Words aren't worth the paper they're written on unless they are followed behaviorally.

AMEN!

Becky

[heyheyhey]

Everyone keeps dancing around the truth here.

Did you notice you are no exception?

[Ann Archy]

You are in shallow water if you think that homos are interested in getting married to women! Try to getsome logic in your statements.

The same people that are aghast at this scandal are the SAME ones that think we should allow Gay BOY SCOUTS AND LEADERS! It;s absurd.

This is what happens when the bar is lowered.

[Calculus_of_Consent]

I never said homos were interested in getting married to women. I think that if priests were allowed to be married, then you would have a much larger number of heterosexuals entering the priesthood.

As it is right now, especially with American Catholic families having fewer children, the only boys I've seen encouraged to enter the priesthood have been those who displayed homosexual tendencies.

[Mike Fieschko]

Which son, do you encourage, to be a priest?

And then ... even if the kid's encouraged at age 13 - 15 ... come on, I know you can do it ... what happens next, Calculus_of_Consent ??

Let me help ... doesn't he have to apply to ...

[Zipporah]

"How come the newsmedia never reports on all of the good things hundreds of thousands of priests do everyday? I know a priest who was just sent to the Middle East. He is a handsome young guy who just wants to serve Our Lord and our country."

Well thats very commendable.. but you don't KNOW that to be the case.. I'm not saying he isn't a dedicated priest..but you do not know. The priests here in my area that were pedophiles were respected. Parishoners believed they were godly men serving our Lord but they were abusing the parish children. This is a very SERIOUS problem. Open your eyes admit their IS a problem and deal with it instead of trying to make excuses. ALL priests aren't pedophiles or gay.. I know some that are not.. and several who left the priesthood to marry and raise families. And I know one monk who lived in a monestary for many years. His comment regarding gays there.. that it is rampant. SO I am not saying the Catholic church is BAD what I am saying is LOOK directly at the problem, admit there IS a problem and DO something about it.