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April 19, 1993 - Fed's Slaughter Citizens in Waco
PBS ^ | 1998 | WGBH/Frontline

Posted on 04/19/2002 7:17:52 PM PDT by ASTM366

Having been attacked by over 100 armed BATF agents on a Sunday morning in late February 1993, the Branch Davidians, a small band of fundamentalist Christians living at a Church commune near Waco, Texas were surrounded. They had been surrounded for 51 days, subjected to psychological warfare techniques and surrounded by federal law enforcement agents who had lost all patience. What the BATF couldn't accomplish, the FBI was going finish. Despite the presence of innocent infants, children, adolescents and women the FBI ordered a military style attack on the buildings of the compound. The rest is history......


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: wacohorror
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To: Johnny Shear
And you are a mean ole troll, and a government-paid shill, who are employed to disrupt FReep.

You know no facts at all about Waco, it is a wonder you can even spell it, and you are arguing against several of the leading scholars of the subject.

What one fact have you posted? Is Waco north or south of Belton? At what other town was Koresh headquartered before moving to the property near Waco?

You know nothing about this buddy, you are hired to put us down, abuse should be reported, you should be banned.

101 posted on 04/20/2002 9:28:53 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: Johnny Shear
That's funny...Those are the EXACT same words used to describe Freepers on DUhhhhh.

It figures that you would be a regular there. Why don't you go on back and join the rest of the dregs of society, troll?

102 posted on 04/20/2002 9:29:25 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill
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To: crystalk
And you are a mean ole troll, and a government-paid shill, who are employed to disrupt FReep.

LOL! OK....The loonies are REALLY out tonight!!!

Let me guess...You've got a Y2K Bunker, don't you?

103 posted on 04/20/2002 9:33:31 PM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: ActionNewsBill; crystalk
The tanks created flues, and sprayed highly flammable admixture to the military CS gas. Methyl chloride is something I use to remove paint. That it was sprayed from three directions into a frame structure containing eighty men, women and children using kerosene lamps for light (since the windows were covered, and the electricity cut) is tantamount to a massacre.

It is not subject to debate that federal police fired on the building--such was the finding of Carlos Ghigliotti, whose decaying body was found in his home lab. He followed a series of investigators who had met with accident, illness and death, preventing their assistance to the Davidian case.

A Delta operative rode a tank to place a shaped charge on the roof of the Concrete Room, which blew a concave hole down onto the twenty to thirty women and children therein who were subsequently reduced to shrivelled human briquets.

The "warrant" and the waiver of posse comitatus were obtained under obscenely false pretense, the same big lies on which the demonization of the Davidians was based: In fact, there were NO drugs or drug manufacturing, the charge of child molestation might have applied years prior before David Koresh's leadership but not contemporaneously, the firearms charges were preponderantly false--and David Koresh had in fact invited the BATF to visit and inspect--which they of course declined.

The front doors, as well as the entire complex, were destroyed as evidence. Thirty bodies of Davidians liquified when the forensic cooler was "accidentally unplugged".

The "re-enactment" was objected to as unrepresentative of actual conditions, and the British infrared firm was deemed complicit with federal agencies.

What was presented as a battle against evil was indeed that, but the evil was the force on the outside which murdered those within.

104 posted on 04/20/2002 9:35:29 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: all
What was Koresh's mother's maiden name?

What was his wife's maiden name?

What was the name of his biological father?

What is the name of his mother's present husband?

At what town did Koresh grow up?

Where did Koresh spend January of 1985?

At what school did Koresh drop out of the 9th grade?

Yes, I know all of those, and a thousand others. You should be ashamed to speak. JS ought to be ashamed to appear in front of a FReep audience.

105 posted on 04/20/2002 9:35:30 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: TLBSHOW
I'm curious...What's your opinion on all this? (Read up the thread...My first comment is around 60.)
106 posted on 04/20/2002 9:39:31 PM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: Johnny Shear
Let me guess...You've got a Y2K Bunker, don't you?

You have not presented any facts to back up your claims, so this is the best you can do? Bwahahaha!

Why don't you take an hour or two and research the facts then come back and make your arguments? Otherwise, you just make yourself look like an idiot.

107 posted on 04/20/2002 9:39:33 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill
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To: Johnny Shear
Sorry....I already work for the "Corporate Media",

I sure hope you're not an investigative reporter, you don't really have the skills or intelligence for that. Then again, you probably work for NBCBSABCNN, so you don't need any investigative skills. Just believe everything fed.gov tells you.

108 posted on 04/20/2002 9:45:05 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill
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To: Johnny Shear
Waco is the BIGGEST FEDKILL in USA since Wounded Knee.

Janet Reno is the Butcher of Waco.

What is the name of the Jamaican national who mailed hate letters to leading Govt. officials in the name of the Davidians?

In what town were they holed up? How many different letters were sent, and to whom? How many copies in all?

What is the post office address of the Davidian property? What is the nearest hamlet? From what town did the first fire truck arrive on April 19, only to be turned back by FBI?

What Harvard lawyer, a black man, was David's second in command and died with four of his children in the Waco fire?

109 posted on 04/20/2002 9:52:51 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: JZoback
Why did this get out of control? It started with very serious paranoia by the FBI and the ATF about religious groups and Y2K. They thought these groups were going to go off the deep end. Didn't happen, did it. Then the Clinton's used the situation to cover up a pair of murders. But they determined witnesses and bullet holes coming from the outside would mess up the story. So Hillary (phsycho in chief) gave the order to "Burn it". No evidence no witnesses.

The left wingers are very dangerous because they think the right wingers are just as evil as they are, but more so. And they can justify their evil because of the perceived greater good.

110 posted on 04/20/2002 9:55:16 PM PDT by Revolutionary
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To: all
Johnny whahny, puddin an pie

Slandered the freepers and made them cry

But when crystalk came out to play

Johnny whiney ran away.

111 posted on 04/20/2002 10:07:17 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: crystalk
Cute...

And again...Please don't group all Freepers (Specifically me) in with you Freaks. You give us all a bad name...Not to mention what you do to Republicans and Conservatism.

You, and people like you are EXACTLY like the liberal freaks who believe the movie JFK and believe in "The Corporate Media" and Cynthia McKinney's charges. You just vote differently...

112 posted on 04/20/2002 10:28:58 PM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: Johnny Shear
You would feel more at home atDU.
113 posted on 04/20/2002 10:29:48 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport
You would feel more at home atDU.

Naaaa.....If nothing else, our freaks at least vote correctly. Well......At least DON'T vote for liberals, that is....

Ps...Anyone who realizes you people are freaks (And dares to say so) is NOT automatically some dumbass from DUhhhhh. Just sane.

114 posted on 04/20/2002 10:38:35 PM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: Johnny Shear
Well, you do not have to stay here with us freaks, you can always walk east until your hat floats.
115 posted on 04/20/2002 10:56:47 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport
Well, you do not have to stay here with us freaks, you can always walk east until your hat floats.

Believe me...I usually just ignore you. But sometimes, I like to point-out to the lurkers that very few Freepers are freaks like you people.

Again...I mean no disrepect personally. I don't know you. But, I can't stand conspiracy theorists...So I spoke-up this time.

116 posted on 04/20/2002 11:01:28 PM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: Johnny Shear
I am no conspiracy theorist. And you have yet to post a fact.

Name a suburb of Waco? In what county does it lie?

What religion were the great majority of the persons living at the Waco compound?

How many were black, Hispanic, Asian, or White? How many Jews were in the fire on April 19?

I am a serious scholar of the Waco events, certainly one of the top 100 in the country, and you have not shown me or anyone else that you have one minute's conversancy with the elements of the case.

117 posted on 04/20/2002 11:12:56 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: Johnny Shear
Believe me...I usually just ignore you. But sometimes, I like to point-out to the lurkers that very few Freepers are freaks like you people.

You are the one who is in the minority here....

But, I can't stand conspiracy theorists...So I spoke-up this time.

There is no conspiracy, these facts that the majority of us have presented are well documented.

It's really a shame you don't even have the intelligence to check out the facts before presenting your "opinions."

118 posted on 04/20/2002 11:15:30 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill
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To: Johnny Shear
And again...Please don't group all Freepers (Specifically me) in with you Freaks.

You have been here less than one year (Sept. 15, 2001) and you presume to know more than those who have been here for years and have actually researched the issue?

Why don't you present some facts to back up your tirades....at least I'd respect you if you had something relevant to say. As it stands now, you are nothing more than a mindless shill.

119 posted on 04/20/2002 11:21:00 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill
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To: Johnny Shear
You, and people like you are EXACTLY like the liberal freaks who believe the movie JFK and believe in "The Corporate Media" and Cynthia McKinney's charges. You just vote differently...

That's interesting....you say you work for the "corporate media", and yet you claim the rest of us who have actually used our brains to research and learn the truth about what happened at Waco are somehow brainwashed by it.

Your posts grow more and more pathetic.

120 posted on 04/20/2002 11:27:19 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill
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