Senate Defeats Arctic Drilling

MSNBC ^ | 4/18/02 | DoveTurnedHawk

[MinorityRepublican]

I might amend that just a tad..."the democrats want to keep us dependent on TERRORIST oil"...the Saudis are NOT our friends.

That's the truth, as the democrats are keeping us dependent on oil from Saudi Arabia. Now who is the real enemy in America?

Either you are with us, or you are not with us.

President Bush said that immediately after 9/11, he should take appropriate actions.

[American in Israel]

I'm sure within the next 100 years our need for two-story cars and a BigMac on every corner will result in the destruction of most of our National Parks and reserves.

Nah, no need to worry, within a hundred years you will be worrying about making sandals not if you can feed your car. And besides Clintoon gave all the National parks to the UN. We already don't own them. But be happy, the NWO goon in the 5 story house built on half dome may need a new pool sweeper. You might land a Job. Then it will be a new pair of sandals for the whole family!

[Oldeconomybuyer]

ANWR was a line drawn in the sand and democrats were afraid to cross it for fear that the money supply from radical enviornmentalist would be cut off if they voted in favor of exploring for oil in Alaska. This is yet another example of politicians voting AGAINST the national interest and FOR special interest.

[Cold Heat]

another solution is decreased usage

Absolutely! but we are years away from making alternative power plants for autos economically efficient and safe. It's comming though, and is a major part of the solution.

[Willie Green]

No more nukes!!

Hmmmmmm.... no to oil & gas... no to nukes....

I guess that leaves us with digging up more coal and tar sands, etc. That's fine with me.

We could build some more hydroelectric dams too, however most of the good spots have already been taken....

Solar & wind??? They'll remain useful as curiosities in marginal niches... But the masses will revolt and tar & feather the green-weenies before they become economical nationwide.

It's nigh close to start talking reality, bub.

[Jhoffa_]

Although there are leases that are not being tapped, The cost is the significant reason. I expect that if prices stay high and the future expectations are that they will remain there, The rigs will start to move.

However, there is also significant political resistance to drilling in the gulf.

Some of it from our own party.

Naturally, this bothers me.

[McAdams]

I AM

[ohioman]

Anybody who voted against this is a F-in idiot and should be forced to walk to work.

[Belial]

I'm not too worried. Sooner rather than later the demagogues in the Mideast will turn the desert into glass, and I'm sure we're already developing the technology to drill in glowing landscapes.

[Cold Heat]

All that significant resistance is comming from a few shrill and loud mouths. The gulf off the coast of Floriduh is where they are the most shrill.

It is time to put out some good data to counter their BS!

[TankerKC]

60 - 14 = 46

Your math checks out.

[biblewonk]

Solar & wind??? They'll remain useful as curiosities in marginal niches... But the masses will revolt and tar & feather the green-weenies before they become economical nationwide.

Wind, hydro, solar, renewable carbons, gas, oil, oil sands, coal. No nukes bub!

[deport]

*******************************************************************
(Rollcall Vote No. 71 Leg. )

April 18, 2002  12:20PM

VOTE TITLE: Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Murkowski Amendment No.
31323

BILL NO.: S. 517
AMENDMENT NO.: S.Amdt.
3132

REQUIRED FOR MAJORITY: 3/5
RESULT: Cloture Motion Rejected


                              YEAS --- 46
  Akaka                   Frist                   McConnell
  Allard                  Gramm                   Miller
  Allen                   Grassley                Murkowski
  Bennett                 Gregg                   Nickles
  Bond                    Hagel                   Roberts
  Breaux                  Hatch                   Santorum
  Brownback               Helms                   Sessions
  Bunning                 Hutchinson              Shelby
  Burns                   Hutchison               Specter
  Campbell                Inhofe                  Stevens
  Cochran                 Inouye                  Thomas
  Craig                   Kyl                     Thompson
  Crapo                   Landrieu                Thurmond
  Domenici                Lott                    Voinovich
  Ensign                  Lugar                   Warner
  Enzi

                              NAYS --- 54
  Baucus                  Dodd                    Lincoln
  Bayh                    Dorgan                  McCain
  Biden                   Durbin                  Mikulski
  Bingaman                Edwards                 Murray
  Boxer                   Feingold                Nelson (FL)
  Byrd                    Feinstein               Nelson (NE)
  Cantwell                Fitzgerald              Reed
  Carnahan                Graham                  Reid
  Carper                  Harkin                  Rockefeller
  Chafee                  Hollings                Sarbanes
  Cleland                 Jeffords                Schumer
  Clinton                 Johnson                 Smith (NH)
  Collins                 Kennedy                 Smith (OR)
  Conrad                  Kerry                   Snowe
  Corzine                 Kohl                    Stabenow
  Daschle                 Leahy                   Torricelli
  Dayton                  Levin                   Wellstone
  DeWine                  Lieberman               Wyden

*******************************************************************

[cantfindagoodscreenname]

Smith in NH???? He'll be hearing from me soon!

[Jhoffa_]

PSS:

Why do you hate McDonalds?

They are building stores in response to consumer demand.

Their stores (on the whole, you do get a few bad apples when you franchise) are clean and safe.. so is their food.

They are a fantastic example of capitalism and (believe it or not) feed more people on a daily basis than the United States Government.

I would think McDonalds and their buisness model would make Conservatives happy and optimistic.

I am happy for them, why is there so much hate associated with their brand? I will never understand this.

[11B3]

"No more nukes..."

More Nukes, Less Kooks
Envirowackos deserve summary execution - right along with the Democratic Socialists of America.

[biblewonk]

Kill all the pro-nukes

[Belial]

I'm glad your keen on the environment.

The reason I'm not so into McDonald's are varied: the food is the definition of bad nutrition, the meat industry is a chief culprit in the destruction of rainforests and animal cruelty.

Perhaps that sounds like some hippie-dippy sentiment, but the reality of the slaughterhouses would make even the most hardened exploiters lose their lunch. Due to the critical mass of cows moved through the slaughter lines, many mistakes occur. The anaesthetic shots designed to knock out the cows sometimes miss, or stab them in the eyes. The skin is often pulled off cattle while they are still conscious. The turnover rate for employees working slaughterhouses is around 300%.

[Almondjoy]

I agree.... although I'm not educated enough on the enviromental impacts of the drilling, I do believe that from what I've heard the impact would be minimal... in any case Jeb shouldn't be whining about drilling off the coast of Florida either. It's all political and has nothing to do about the "good" of the country.