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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Interesting that you would post this today. I had a long chat with a nun (while waiting for my husband's open heart surgery to be completed) about the Catholic church and the gay problem. She actually brought up the subject. Anyway, I asked her why the gay priests were having such a tough time keeping their celibacy vows. She said that there is only one reason, they don't pray any more. She said that the priests have become more businessmen than clergy men and that they no longer pray to God for guidance. She told me lots of stories to back up her premise. I basicly have to agree with her.
29 posted on 04/18/2002 12:38:37 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
I asked her why the gay priests were having such a tough time keeping their celibacy vows. She said that there is only one reason, they don't pray any more.

What begat what

Maybe they don't pray anymore because the entered the priesthood for the wrong reason and don't really believe the Church's teachings but found a good secure job with fringe benefits
39 posted on 04/18/2002 1:25:25 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Eva
Anyway, I asked her why the gay priests were having such a tough time keeping their celibacy vows. She said that there is only one reason, they don't pray any more.

That's powerful antidotal evidence of the problems in some of our diocese.

I was pleased when at our parish, the priests interviewed the children, including my daughter, preparing to receive their First Eucharist. He asked many good questions to make sure that she knew details about the Lord's Supper, what Jesus said, and why he said it. Then he asked if she prayed. She said yes, every day at school and at dinner. He continued, talking about how many minutes there were in the day, and taking five minutes to pray to God wasn't really a lot of time, but she should do it every day.

My daughter asked me if I prayed, and I realized that all my prayers are in church or when I'm alone or, at the dinner table when we say Grace. It was an eye opener for me ... I need to set the example. So we've started praying together at night, just a short prayer now, and as my kids get older we can read more Scripture and pray on it.

111 posted on 04/19/2002 10:21:38 AM PDT by Gophack
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In reply to #29 ....It is true that years ago( without divulging my age) one always noticed the priests using the breviary which contained daily offices and prayers. There were designated hours one spent in prayer. Has this been discontinued by our clergy? And if so, then perphaps it should once again become the hallmark of their day.
136 posted on 04/20/2002 7:32:00 PM PDT by ejo
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