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You seem to be missing my point in posting this article.

I posted this article for Catholics. I wanted to hear from them as to whether this article was as anti-Catholic as it appears to me.

I realized when I posted it though, that good people like you (non-Catholics) would not be able to resist using it as you are using it.

When I said that I suspect that you agree with the author, it was a subtle attempt to refer you to my opening comments in the hope that you would get the hint and step aside.

I certainly did not intend the thread to become a discussion of Catholic beliefs between Catholics and non-Catholics. So, if you would respect my intent, I would like to end our exchange.

In other words, having no logical arguments to advance, you're cutting and running, asserting after the fact that you never meant for non-Catholics to join the fray. This is a public forum frequented by all shapes and sizes. If you can't stand the heat, get outta the kitchen.

OK and thanks for the post. Anyone who pays ANY attention to the ranting in the Mational (anti-)Catholic )(rag/)Reporter is nuts. Even The Wanderer presents more facts--albeit they are also somewhat selective.

NCR has, for years, been the mouthpiece for a number of disaffected Bishops, priests, and laymen who STILL don't understand that the Church is not 'American' in any way, shape, fashion, or form.

Even some respondents on this page seem to ignore the fact that the Church is a SPIRITUAL body whose Head is Christ--and Peter is His representative on earth.

Even though some Peters were not, ah, well-bred, NONE of them has EVER contradicted doctrine or dogma--the REAL business of the Church.

Christ certainly did not establish a secular state--nor did He care much, likely, that the Church became one. Eventually, the Church figured it out and bailed out on most of its territories.

Now the Church has a postage-stamp inside of Rome.

So what?