Posted on 04/18/2002 10:46:10 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
Indulgences were and are guarantees signed and sealed by folks in no position to deliver on the promise. Indulgences were sold by those who had invented the idea of purgatory in the first place (there is no biblical basis for purgatory).
This guy here doubts two elements of the Catholic faith, and broadcasts this to his allegedly Catholic audience. He not only denies Purgatory, he also denies that the Church's Magisterium was given the power to bind and loose.
In short, this man is not a Catholic.
SD
Celibacy in those who seek holiness is not limited to Catholics. The tradition is ancient in the Eastern church, where married men can become priests but priests cannot marry, and where bishops come from the unmarried clergy.
Hindu holy men do not marry, nor do most Buddist monks, for example. Gandhi, for example, was married but became celibate later in his life when he decided to become a holy man. Indeed, one legal reason for divorce in India is if one's husband leaves to become a holy man.
Many "mystery" cults that predate Christianity encouraged celibacy (mainly in the East.).
Some of this is due to the "gnostic" influence, which feels that bodily functions including sex, are evil, and only the spirit is good. Christianity rejected that idea, but some influence remained. And, of course, what Paul said stays true today: That a married man or woman has to use much of their time pleasing the spouse, but an unmarried person can do the Lord's work full time.
What is the biblical basis for purgatory?
Purgatory was defined by Catholic Tradition, which makes it binding on Catholics to believe. But you won't find anything about it in Scripture.
And belief or non-belief in indulgences is indicative of nothing. I would wager half of today's Catholics don't know anything about them, except for Luther's railing against the selling of them, nor have 95% of Catholics tried to obtain an indulgence.
Are these folks not Catholic either?
So I suppose we married schmucks are just out of luck when it comes to holiness?
Monks used to flagellate themselves too, in the name of holiness.
John Paul II has done more to counter the continuing influence of gnosticism in the Church than any Pope in history.
The definitive text is "The Apostolic Origins of Priestly Celibacy" by Christian Cochini. Please read the book before biting on the bitter bait trolled by those adrift from the barque of Peter. The NCR promotes authentic Catholicism as well as the Sierra Club promotes authentic care of the environment
Christian Cichini's book is packed with evidence and real actual Documents. Documents such as the Decretal written by Pope Siricius prior to 400 A.D. In this text, the Pope reminds ALL priests of their DUTY of perpetual continence (celibacy). He reasons the O.T. priests had the requirement to spend their year in the Temple without sexual congress with their wives. The N.T. priests do not sacrifice for just one year. They sacrificed daily; ergo, perpetual celibacy.
Cochini's scholarship is called remarkable. Henri Cardinal de Lubac; "This work is of first importance. It is the result of serious and extensive research. There is nothing even remotely comparable to this work in this whole 20th century"
I have owned my book for YEARS. Buy it yourself and quit the perfidy and ignorance of the NCR
Siricius' Decretal was obviously not the final word on the matter, as Gregory VII had to reaffirm it more forcefully 700 years later by invalidating the marriages of ordained priests.
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