Climate Affects Salmon Population

AP ^ | 4/17/02

[LostTribe]

Thousands of years before dams or commercial fishing boats, Pacific salmon experienced huge population swings that coincided with major climate shifts, scientists report.

[LostTribe]

We laugh at the ancients for sacrificing children to improve the crops. Future populations will laugh at us for wasting billions to "manage" the salmon.

[buffyt]

YOU are 100% CORRECT!

Global warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the world! The climate changes all the time. It is in a cycle. Like the dust bowl of the 40s. We had floods in Texas in the 70s. It is all in cycles. It isn't caused by pollution. duh....

[KayEyeDoubleDee]

"My thoughts exactly BTTT"

[Eska]

Actually, I live on what was once a thriving salmon river in Alaska. The runs have collapsed due to a number of reasons.

I'm not claiming it's man-made or just the natural cycle of things. Just hate seeing a specific genetic stain that has developed over hundreds of years of natural spawning disappear; I like catchin them too. Up here in Alaska fish are not stocked like back east.

Our river is fed by glaciers. When average temps go up by just a degree or so, the glaciers melt like crazy and streams & rivers silt up from all the glacial erosion. Fish can't spawn, need high quality water, not mud. So you see in all the larger streams that are fed by glaciers, their salmon runs die off. You still have a few fish run up the small streams that you can jump across but the huge numbers that blacken the bigger streams are gone. Then F&G stops all fishing in that watershed to get the escapement to continue the runs at all.

Even though it's snowing as I speak; I wish it would stay a little cooler in the summer so the river wouldn't be the milky torrent its been over the last 20 years and the salmon would come back.

[LostTribe]

Sure, I like salmon too, to eat. But the waste we see in the name of "countering global warming" is immense. In the Pacific NW millions are spent on goofy schemes that mostly have little effect. We run huge hydro generating systems at 1/3 capacity to protect the salmon while records runs are happening a few miles downsteam and offshore.

Weather changes, and climate changes, and it is far bigger than we are. Meanwhile the price of electricity skyrockets.

[Mike Darancette]

When the geologic engine stops generating a changing climate global warming will not be a problem. the earth will be a ball of ice.

[LostTribe]

>..the earth will be a ball of ice.

I think it's happening already. Sure has been COLD here this week. -ggg- (That's environmentalist type thinking.)

[LostTribe]

bump to blam.

[blam]

Centuries long cycles are hard to detect. We should not react to 'global warming' alarm until we can confirm it is real. (which will take some time)

[LostTribe]

>We should not react to 'global warming' alarm until we can confirm it is real. (which will take some time)

By that time the frost will be on the pumpkin. Have you read anything by Sally Baliunius? (Lots on the net, I think.)

[Bob J]

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[blam]

'Have you read anything by Sally Baliunius? (Lots on the net, I think.)"

Nope. I've not heard her name before.

[UCANSEE2]

They got this wrong. Should have been "Salmon Population affects Climate". This has been proven by scientists backed by huge government grants. That means it's true.

[LostTribe]

>Should have been "Salmon Population affects Climate".

HA! Snort!

[UCANSEE2]

Thanks. I have looked at your information on the Lost Tribes and wanted to thank you for what you have provided on the internet. I find it very interesting. Maybe some day we will know the truth of the 'lost tribes', whatever it may be.

[LostTribe]

>Thanks. I have looked at your information on the Lost Tribes and wanted to thank you for what you have provided on the internet. I find it very interesting.

Thank You for those kind comments. You don't know how much they are appreciated.

>Maybe some day we will know the truth of the 'lost tribes', whatever it may be.

I have no doubt we will some day have the chance to ask The Old Man himself. -ggg-

[LostTribe]

Dr. Sally Baliunius? She makes more sense than any 100 enviros combined, backed up by awesome credentials. Just do a google search under her name and lots of good environmental stuff comes up.

[blam]

"Just do a google search under her name and lots of good environmental stuff comes up."

Okay. Tomorrow. It's bed time here.

[LostTribe]

Same Here. GN

[blam]

(Goodnight)

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