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To: ancient_geezer
Until conservatives quit cutting their own throats

I'm glad you agree. Republicans and the rest of the fractured Right (LibTars/Const-ists ect) are really only separated by a few moral issues. The same is true for a lot of the middle-of-the-roaders/would be fiscal conservatives that turn out to be liberal voters because they don't want the fed running their personal lives. Without the issue of abortion or gay rights being the front and center campaign issues they would be voting conservative. If the heart of federal level conservative politicians would leave the moral issues to the People/States (as it should be and as is mandated by the Constitution) and concentrate on fiscal/Constitutional issues the IRS would be through.

Now that we know that, how do we get there from here?

EBUCK

14 posted on 04/18/2002 12:52:08 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: EBUCK
Unfortunately, I don't have alot of time right now to get into specifics. (I will be available later)

But Here's what I see as a potential bills to support to actually address the problems inherent in the current income/payroll system we are all saddled with.

 

Billy Tauzin offers one solution, a 15% retail sales tax on family consumption that replaces all income taxes but doesn't touch payroll taxes(SS/Mediscare etc.), that comes close to meeting the essentials of what it takes to reverse trends:

H.R.2717
Sponsor: Rep Tauzin, W. J. (Billy)(introduced 8/2/2001)
Title: To promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity for families by repealing the income tax, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

John Linder (R Texas) offers a more comprehensive bill to kill all income and payroll taxes outright, and provide a revenue neutral replacement 23% retail sales tax on family consumption:

H.R.2525
SPONSOR: Rep Linder, John (introduced 07/17/2001)
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.
Refer:
http://www.fairtax.org & http://www.salestax.org

Other bills, moving in the proper direction are:

To get the ball rolling and focus Congress Critter's attention:

H.R.2714
Sponsor: Rep Largent, Steve(introduced 8/2/2001)
Title: To terminate the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.
A bill to prohibit he imposition of any tax by the Internal Revenue Code: (1) for any taxable year beginning after December 31, 2005.

the modification then enactment and ratification of:

H.J.RES.45
Sponsor: (introduced 4/25/2001)
Latest Major Action: 5/9/2001 Referred to House subcommitte.
Title: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relative to abolishing personal income, estate, and gift taxes and prohibiting the Untied States Government from engaging in the business in competition with its citizens.

(Modified to prohibit all income, payroll, gift estate taxes as HR2525 calls for, or we will see European VAT style hidden taxes along with payroll excises to take over in the place of the of the current individual income tax(i.e. personal income tax) that Ron Paul amendment prohibits.)

And to keep em reminded that there is indeed a Constitution to pay attention to:

H.R.175
Sponsor: (introduced 1/3/2001)
Latest Major Action: 2/12/2001 Referred to House subcommittee
Title: To require Congress to specify the source of authority under the United States Constitution for the enactment of laws, and for other purposes.


15 posted on 04/18/2002 1:35:21 PM PDT by ancient_geezer
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