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One more step down the slippery slope for UK
BBC Online ^ | 4/15/02 | Unkknown

Posted on 04/15/2002 12:37:40 PM PDT by scouse

Monday, 15 April, 2002, 19:08 GMT 20:08 UK

Woman dies after robbery

A 77-year-old woman who was badly beaten by a robber as he stole her fish supper has died.

A murder inquiry is under way after the attack on Marie Watson in Newcastle upon Tyne.

The pensioner suffered a broken right shoulder and extensive bruising to her face during the attack in the Heaton area.

Detective Superintendent Derek Storey, leading the murder investigation, said: "This was an appalling unprovoked attack upon an elderly defenceless woman."

Marie Watson died 11 days after the attack

Mrs Watson's family issued a statement through police saying: "Our mother's death was undignified and she has gone before her time.

"She was as much a friend as a mother to us and she will be sorely missed by us all."

Beth Gallagher, the woman's daughter, said her mother suffered great pain after the attack, which happened 11 days ago.

She said: "We don't want anyone else to go through the agony we have and just want the scum who did this to be caught.

"She was carrying her money in her pocket and all this person got was her new shopping bag and the fish she had just bought from a nearby fish and chip shop.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; chips; fish; pensioner
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Whoever did this should have his gene pool mopped dry.
1 posted on 04/15/2002 12:37:40 PM PDT by scouse
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: "This was an appalling unprovoked attack upon an elderly defenceless woman."

and it was you and your loony liberal government who made her defenseless, by taking away her right to defend herself.

2 posted on 04/15/2002 12:40:27 PM PDT by camle
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To: scouse
UK's crime rate is soaring out of control.
3 posted on 04/15/2002 12:45:41 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: camle
and it was you and your loony liberal government who made her defenseless, by taking away her right to defend herself.

I'm sure she has the right to defend herself; you're probably saying that she doesn't have the means to do it. But don't you think that at her age he might have just taken her gun away from her and shot her with it? I mean, there's no guarantee that she could have defended herself even if she had a weapon.

4 posted on 04/15/2002 12:51:16 PM PDT by in_troth
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To: camle
I happen to be an American who lives in Florida.
6 posted on 04/15/2002 12:53:29 PM PDT by scouse
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To: camle
Don't blame the police for Princess Tony's stupidity. For those who wonder about this guy, he banned handguns straight after coming into office, then began a process of releasing burglars, drug dealers and rapists early from prison. He also signed away to Europe the right of the British people to vote to restore capital punishment.
7 posted on 04/15/2002 12:57:26 PM PDT by Tomalak
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To: in_troth
there's no guarantee that she could have defended herself even if she had a weapon

That's correct.

So, better to leave her utterly defenseless than to give her a fighting chance, eh?

8 posted on 04/15/2002 12:58:29 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: Tomalak
I'm not blaming the police, the brits bought this on themselves by electing tony-boy.
9 posted on 04/15/2002 12:59:57 PM PDT by camle
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To: in_troth
I'm sure she has the right to defend herself; you're probably saying that she doesn't have the means to do it. But don't you think that at her age he might have just taken her gun away from her and shot her with it? I mean, there's no guarantee that she could have defended herself even if she had a weapon.

There is never any guarantees, but she didn't even was given a chance by the government. Besides, in having arms out in the public, the hoodlum is made guessing if the victim is armed or not. Plus, there could be an armed witness that could help out as well. In passing the gun control alws, both of these classes of people were disarmed.

10 posted on 04/15/2002 1:01:18 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: in_troth; *bang_list
I mean, there's no guarantee that she could have defended herself even if she had a weapon.

But we all know that her chances were zero since she was now defenseless

Imagine being awakened to the sound of your front door being broken down. With the sound of feet pounding up the stairs, you leap from your bed to retrieve your .357 Magnum revolver from your nightstand. Running to the window, you toss the weapon outside and turn to face your attacker completely unarmed and infinitely safer!

If that sounds correct to you, you must be a liberal. If it sounds preposterous, congratulations! Your brain is starting to engage and you are on the road to conservatism!

Next lesson: Two to the chest and one to the head.

11 posted on 04/15/2002 1:01:26 PM PDT by FormerLib
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To: scouse
Where does the slope get slippery?
12 posted on 04/15/2002 1:08:33 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: FormerLib
Tony-Boy -- Slick Willie's best bud.

In the UK, if you DO happen to blow someone away who is burglarizing your house, YOU will go to prison.

Over there, they are subjects -- have been for millenia.

We've got the right idea here, although we are fast becoming subjects of our own oppressive government as well.

13 posted on 04/15/2002 1:23:19 PM PDT by Jerrybob
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To: in_troth
Almost never happens. When a prospective victim produces a gun most (almost all) scum run for it. They want an easy target and even an old lady with a cheap pistol does not qualify. I have some experience with this as a couple of decades ago, my 80 year old grandma ran off a house breaker with a .22 single action revolver.
14 posted on 04/15/2002 1:50:19 PM PDT by Rifleman
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To: onedoug
Where does the slope get slippery?

Well before the majority of the people notice.

15 posted on 04/15/2002 1:50:39 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: scouse
Hey Tommy! Your shit is lookin' mighty weak!
16 posted on 04/15/2002 1:53:21 PM PDT by Destructor
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To: in_troth
no guarantee that she could have defended herself

Quite true, but one of the perp's victims of the week before could, if armed, easily have performed a little social prophylaxis.

17 posted on 04/15/2002 2:00:56 PM PDT by Charlotte Corday
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To: areafiftyone
UK's crime rate is soaring out of control.

That'll happen when only the lawbreakers own firearms.

18 posted on 04/15/2002 2:01:57 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: scouse
Keywords CHIPS and FISH?!?!?
19 posted on 04/15/2002 2:02:34 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Yes removing Guns may have made her defenseless but I would recon that she would not have had one even if she could.

Neither of my folks have or carry a gun even though they could if they wanted. I carry always but have never needed it.

Another factor would be the removal of morality as a standard of living. We seem to be doing that here in the US as well.

20 posted on 04/15/2002 2:07:36 PM PDT by Khepera
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