Milosevic Says Kosovo Massacre Staged by Rebels

Reuters ^ | 4/15/02 | Eric Onstad

[Hoplite]

So let me get this straight - I can't ask you for proof, but you can deride the EU-FET report based on whatever and then demand proof to support its integrity?

Learn the rules, Wraith - support your version of events or hang it up.

[Wraith]

Skating around my last post says a lot. Nixon would be proud.......

[Hoplite]

And skating around post 58 doesn't count, I suppose.

You've got nothing, and it's showing, Wraith.

[Wraith]

We shall see.

[Hoplite]

I'm seeing all I need to see right now, Wraith - and it's a big, fat, zero.

Are you waiting for evidence to support your hypothesis?

If so, how long am I to wait?

[Wraith]

Who says you have to wait you pompous ass.

[Hoplite]

Well, since I'm waiting for you to provide evidence to support your views on Racak, specifically something that bolsters your claim that "the UCK put them in the ditch or worse", you're the one who's making me wait.

Don't get huffy - simply back up your statement or admit you have nothing to do so with.

[Wraith]

Get off your high horse and provide something rather than be the high entity that decides what the proof is. I wonder about your motivation in all this is. Your inflexibility is it a method to draw out information. Been around long enough to know wheb something does not smell right. You can only probe so far hoplight before things become very obvious and I believe that time his here.

[Hoplite]

So we're back to #61.

[Wraith]

No I believe its you with your selective memory that is going in circles. Don't get to dizzy.

[Hoplite]

Well you can help me out by showing where you have ever referenced anything other than unnamed Kosovar Albanians telling you about the KLA blocking a KVM patrol on the 15 to support your views and we can proceed from there.

If you can't, then nothing more needs be said.

[Wraith]

anything other than unnamed Kosovar Albanians telling you about the KLA blocking a KVM patrol on the 15

Come on Hoplite if you have a bit of common sense you would realize that this is for a reason. You have never been to the Balkans and yet you attempt to give the perception that you know. Well you don't have a clue and if you did you would understand why Albanians remaining unnamed means they will remain breathing. Come on prove the KLA did not put those bodies in the ditch during the 15 hours the KLA where in control of Racak? You will not answer this because you can't. 15 hours Hoplite.....We shall see....

[Hoplite]

Wraith, your guy's name is irrelevant, and the second patrol being stopped is ultimately irrelevant - you have nothing but innuendo to go against the EU-FET report which clearly makes the case that the men in the ditch were shot in place, not moved there, as you continue to try to convince in the absence of any supporting evidence.

It's a simple case of one version of events being documented with findings, and the other being nothing more than a make believe version devoid of any basis in reality.

Now either you have something to anchor your version of events (the bodies being moved there) in reality, or you're just wasting your breath attacking the only scenario that has anything to back it up.

[Wraith]

the second patrol being stopped is ultimately irrelevant

Funny you didn't think so not so long ago,. I was different from the rest, now its irrelevant? Its irrelevant because its not the so called Walker official point of view . The fact that the BBC caught him lying about his contact with the U.S. State department heavies while running the OSCE right up until Racak really hurts his credibility and you support his view. Your supporting a liar hoplite. Think about it. That’s where you need to begin questioning the reality of it all. Stop trying to rip apart a first hand point of view when all you have are the arranged perceptions and people like the questionable William Walker who presented them. Admit it hoplite, Walker lied to the press, could he be lying about Racak considering the circumstances of his past history. Admit it, you have to agree with this because its a fact. If not you do have a problem. I saw the BBC Documentary and so did the world. A hard bullet to swallow but I know your eggo will not allow you to admit it in any reply. If you want to be objective bring forth the objectivity and park the eggo. If not you are wasting your time.

[Hoplite]

Alright Wraith, you've had your chances - you don't have anything substantiative to support your version of events and can only attempt to mask this fact by attempting to shift the conversation away from this fatal flaw in your position.

Sadly, you're in good company here.

[Wraith]

Sadly you stand alone. I have a large responsibly to certain individuals in regards to the proof you demand. I thought a intelligent individual would understand this. I'm the source of what I say and I mask nothing.

[Hoplite]

I'm the source of what I say and I mask nothing.

The only thing you've said is that a Kosovar Albanian told you that a KVM patrol was stopped by the KLA on the 15th.

That does not equal the KLA manipulating the crime scene at Racak.

What does equal a scenario is the witness statements (from Pro LDK villagers, per you), forensic evidence, and the autopsy results - all of which point to Serb culpability for the killings.

Now, do you have anything to bring to the table other than the KVM patrol being stopped by the KLA?

[Wraith]

Answer my question why are you supporting William Walker and his point of view when it is a fact that he lied to the BBC about his contact with the US State Department. Your refusal to acknowledge this fact seems to be very sensitive issue but I find it very strange why you will not acknowledge this simple fact? The question Hoplite is how big was Walker's lie and how far reaching was it. Is it an obvious embarrassment for you?

Now, do you have anything to bring to the table other than the KVM patrol being stopped by the KLA? As for what you want brought to your table please refer again to my post #76. I believe your selective memory is working again. You know this problem of yours really puts up a barrier for example statements like “this is your last chance” etc. Last chance for what to make Daddy happy. Give me a break. Their is lots more Hoplite and patients is something you need to develop. Don't bother replying unless you want to acknowledge that William Walker is a confirmed documented liar, you know the guy that pointed the finger at the speed of light......

[Hoplite]

Look up dissimulation in your dictionary.

William Walker, by the way, is providing none of the evidence pertinent to the matter at hand, so if you wish to discuss his shortcomings I suggest you do it with some of the usual suspects rather than trying to use him as a device to extricate yourself from the factual deficit your position is suffering from.

I had expected better from you, Wraith - you're turning into a regular G. Dority.

[vooch]

Hoplite

we've already established that the KVM reports were falsiifeid by higher ups......therefore your reliance on them does nothing for your case.