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Lines forming for 'Star Wars' -- already
CNN ^ | 4/11/02 | AP

Posted on 04/11/2002 11:02:16 AM PDT by KantianBurke

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:00:23 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: SteamshipTime
It wasn't that better.
81 posted on 04/11/2002 6:24:59 PM PDT by 42OSHELTONITE
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
I couldn't agree more. SW-TPM is one of those rare movies where either you "get it" -- or you don't. And if I recall correctly, you are not even given, within the movie itself, sufficient information to "get it" based on Star Wars: The Phantom Menace alone. You have to rely on your (prior) knowledge of what will come later. The writers made an assumption that you would, and that you would thereby figure out the unspoken.

My guess is that a large number of viewers simply just didn't pick up on exactly what was going on.

82 posted on 04/11/2002 8:08:12 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: john in missouri
It seems I was quite right about most of the audience completely failing to "get it" when it comes to Star Wars: The Phantom Menace. A visit to imdb.com turns up many comments about JarJar, the pod race, etc., from viewers reviewing the film, but almost no references which show any understanding of the film's pivotal moment. Some quotes:

"I could start watching Episode II without ever needing to see TPM because nothing of importance or of consequence really occurred and that is the real travesty."

And the breathtakingly wrong:

"Although the plot looks long, it's actually paper thin, as the film is really just a chance to show off great special effects and an introduction to some of the characters for the original Star Wars trilogy. That's not to say that this film is bad, it's far from it but it's full of things that the viewer just couldn't care less about e.g the council meeting about how the problem should be solved."

Equally breathtaking:

"As the movie ended, I leaned up in my seat with my mouth wide open. The plot is about problems with a trade federation while the jedi and sith lords jockey for intergalactic position. The trade federation is a completely unnecessary plot and takes away from what should have been the highlights of the movie, namely the introduction of Anakin Skywalker and the struggle between the jedi and sith."

There are, however, a few reviews from people who "got it." If you were one of those who didn't, watch the movie again, with your careful "thinking cap" on.

If you don't clearly understand the title of "Star Wars: The Phantom Menace," then you don't understand the movie.

83 posted on 04/11/2002 8:49:33 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: KantianBurke; lowbridge
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84 posted on 04/12/2002 6:02:16 PM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: BibChr; All
It got me all teared up, just because clearly lightning is going to strike AGAIN!

We're talking about "The Two Towers" trailer, right?

So anyway, Lisa and me went to see "Fellowship Of The Ring" this past Sunday, it having not been since opening day (when we saw it twice) that we'd caught it again. First surprise is that after almost 4 months in theaters, it was a very clean print.

But then, as Frodo and Sam are descending into Emyn Muil, as we expect to go into Enya's song playing over the end credits, instead a black card appears on the screen: "This Christmas..."

I have never cried during a trailer before. Not even for a Star Wars trailer. But tears ran mad during the four minutes that this preview ran. And how classy was that, that they put it at the end of FOTR, to show that yes more IS yet to come!

Oh Lord...

I'm no longer so stoked as I was about "Attack Of The Clones". "The Two Towers" trailer shattered every trailer we've seen for Episode II that's come out these past six months. Those four minutes showed more passion, more drama, and more humanity than most films do with around 120 minutes of time. Including a certain space opera.

Favorite scene in the TTT trailer: everything with the Rohirrim, 'specially seeing Theoden getting strapped up for battle. At the end of the trailer, when we see Gollum slinking downard, my mouth uttered a quite vocal "daaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmnnnnn...." for all to hear. No one disagreed.

At this point, the thing I'm looking forward to most in AOTC is Christopher Lee's portrayal of Count Dooku. And only because of his Saruman from LOTR :-)

85 posted on 04/12/2002 6:16:33 PM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: general_re
nope,you're not the last person to see LOTR,i am.iwon't go see it either.my oldest walked out in the middle,and my youngest fell asleep.we will go see Star Wars II though. but won't stand in line for more than a few hours.
86 posted on 04/12/2002 6:26:01 PM PDT by buckman10_2000
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To: KantianBurke
How can you say its "crappy" when you haven't even seen it?
87 posted on 04/12/2002 6:28:46 PM PDT by marajade
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To: jrherreid
Sure, it's like Titanic--but this is Titanic in space!!!

In that case I think I already saw it, wasn't that a Futuriama plot?

a.cricket

88 posted on 04/12/2002 6:29:42 PM PDT by another cricket
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To: KantianBurke
"JAR JAR RETURNS"

They say he's only in it for about 5-10 minutes and has few lines...

89 posted on 04/12/2002 6:29:51 PM PDT by marajade
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To: JenB
The love story is almost a subplot really... They say its mostly about political intrigue...
90 posted on 04/12/2002 6:30:53 PM PDT by marajade
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To: 42OSHELTONITE
Um actually GL has already admitted that Harry did in fact see the real thing...
91 posted on 04/12/2002 6:33:06 PM PDT by marajade
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To: Samwise;BibChr;hairofthedog;ecurbh;penny1;jenb;2jedismom;overtaxed
Isn't it amusing how some people can get so excited over a movie?

The next thing you know they will start a thread over some Star-Wars characters, and make thousands of posts to it, month after month! They really need to find something better to do!

92 posted on 04/12/2002 6:59:39 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla;BibChr
Now that could never happen Lucius! ...Never in a million years!

Just for you Dan!

93 posted on 04/12/2002 7:18:46 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: john in missouri
That's my nomination (updated technologically to some sort of war-drone robot, of course) for The Fate of Jar-Jar.

LOL. Seconded.

94 posted on 04/12/2002 8:03:40 PM PDT by Samwise
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To: SteamshipTime
"Phantom Menace" was---the Worst movie I have seen-----!!!

WELL, "My Young Friend," there are older movies (You were--no doubt--too young to have "experienced them,")--SO BAD that they became "Legendary!"

No Doubt, "Phantom Menace" wasn't up to your expectations, but it SURE BEAT "Plan 9 From Outer Space!!!"

Considering the "scope" of the "Star Wars" Trilogy/Saga, I'd "cut George Lucas some Slack!!"

IF & When the "Star Wars" story is completed, There's a GOOD CHANCE that "The Story" will "Go Down" as an allegory of the struggle of "Western Civilization's" attempt to "Go to the Stars!!"

Doc

95 posted on 04/12/2002 8:15:05 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: buckman10_2000
.we will go see Star Wars II though. but won't stand in line for more than a few hours.

To each his own - I'll go see Star Wars, but I ain't standing in line at all. ;)

96 posted on 04/12/2002 8:33:31 PM PDT by general_re
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To: Darth Sidious
Yep, I'm with you, Darth. I've never shed tears during a trailer either! But that's what this movie does to me, as I've said: yes, the dramatic moments (the Fellowship mourning Gandalf, Boromir's fall) have moved me to tears — but probably even more, it's just been how wonderfully Jackson gets it, just the scope of the drama, the magic of the Story.... It's hard to explain. But maybe fellow Ringheads don't need an explanation.

Dan

97 posted on 04/13/2002 8:37:02 AM PDT by BibChr
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To: HairOfTheDog
You're a terrible person. TER-R-R-RIBLE person! LOL

Dan

98 posted on 04/13/2002 9:45:24 AM PDT by BibChr
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To: irishtenor
A ping for a fun and highly amusing thread....
99 posted on 04/14/2002 2:56:11 PM PDT by Penny1
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To: Penny1
That's going too far!!!!!!!!!!!;>)
100 posted on 04/15/2002 1:50:17 AM PDT by irishtenor
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