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Elizabethtown [KY] family battles impending deportation
The News Enterprise ^
| 8 April 2002
| Greg Bartlett
Posted on 04/08/2002 1:13:59 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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I feel they should be given a break since they're Catholics.
To: SLB; Wally Cleaver; pocat; Lion Den Dan; Askel5; one_particular_harbour
What do you guys think?
To: Fred Mertz
"It all has to do with Sept. 11; I know that for a fact," Manalastas said. "I cannot blame the INS. They are following orders from Washington, but I'm not one of them. Not quite, my illegal alien friend. This ALL has to do with your ignoring the laws of this country.
Perhaps that will sink in some hot night back in Manilla
Owl_Eagle
Guns Before Butter.
To: Fred Mertz
Make sure they take their kids with them.
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To: Fred Mertz
I feel bad for the guys' kids - they're getting screwed because their dad's a criminal.
But I'll admit it looks bad when this guy is rousted but Muslim fanatics are allowed into the country for flight training.
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posted on
04/08/2002 1:28:42 PM PDT
by
wideawake
To: Fred Mertz
I don't care what religion they are. They are here illegally and have been ordered to leave the country. I have 2 words for them...
Get Out!
If you are going to give forgiveness and be soft on criminals because they are catholic, then there is a load of priests who would like to stay at your house.
To: Fred Mertz
He's not just an illegal alien. He's a fugitive deportee.
Adios, amigo.
To: Phantom Lord
Hey man, I was just trying to jump start the discussion.
To: Fred Mertz
A pity they're not Hispanic.
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posted on
04/08/2002 1:35:04 PM PDT
by
Askel5
To: Fred Mertz
I feel they should be given a break since they're Catholics. And I think I shouldn't have to obey the law because I'm special, too.
If that logic won't suffice to evade taxes or traffic tickets, why should it be used in the area of immigration law?
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posted on
04/08/2002 1:36:09 PM PDT
by
neutrino
To: Fred Mertz
I just wonder how many of the hard-working great Americans (who came to this country to find a better life) from previous generations would have been deported if they would be alive today because of "improper" documentation. I agree with Father Sullivan--they need to be given a break--and I am not even Catholic.
To: Fred Mertz
We're going to be seeing more and more such reports. It's an easy way to undermine law enforcement. Find some "hard" cases and generate sympathy for them. Sorry, but if I tried what these people did in the Philippines, I'd probably end up in jail for life.
To: Fred Mertz
I'll believe they got deported, when they get deported.
We need to focus our attention and energies on how to shape up the lazy jerry Springer/Oprah sittin'-around-on-the-couch losers in our own society before we let in the rest of the 3rd World eager to take those lower-scale, entry-level jobs.
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posted on
04/08/2002 2:01:11 PM PDT
by
CIBvet
To: Fred Mertz
So are all the Mexicans. So are all the Brazilians making sandwiches and cleaning offices in Boston.
We should have an amnesty program, but it should be truly selective, with employers willing to bond sponsored immigrants. No need to ding our economy needlessly. But neither should we allow unions to turn this into a boondoggle for themselves, nor should we give illegals or their children citizenship. A green card is all they should get IF they are productively employed.
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posted on
04/08/2002 2:45:31 PM PDT
by
eno_
To: Fred Mertz;Owl Eagle; Bikers4Bush; one_particular_harbour; wideawake; Phantom Lord...
To all who think this guy is a criminal and deserves your scorn, ask yourself what you would have done in his situation?
Wanting better for your family is noble. He was simply doing the best for them he knew how. I can't condemn him for that. It sounds like he was one of the good guys. Better than many who have citizenship.
Having said that, I will be sorry to see them go but we can't pick and choose. If the law is to have any meaning it must be applied to all equally. It sounds like they understand that. I for one, wish them well.
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posted on
04/08/2002 2:53:21 PM PDT
by
monday
To: monday
He was deported for some reason when he was in New Jersey, then he hid from the authorities. He's not just your run-of-the-mill illegal alien. He is a FUGITIVE DEPORTEE.
When you're kicked out of a foreign country, you sell your home, your goods, take the money and LEAVE.
To: monday
The man in question is a criminal and a wanton law breaker. He should leave now.
And for those who cry "Hes just trying to improve his life and opportunities. The only law he broke was coming here illegaly", I have a question for you.
Since you seem to believe that his breaking of our immigration laws (and many employment laws, and other laws) is not all that bad and should be over looked, what law do I get to break without penalty or consequences? How about citizens get to break 2 laws. Since we are citizens we should get a bonus law to break.
So, what laws do I get to break?
To: The Old Hoosier
"He's not just your run-of-the-mill illegal alien. He is a FUGITIVE DEPORTEE. "Hmmmmm ... yes you are right there is a small distinction. I suppose that does make him worthy of scorn and redicule. Still, since all illegal aliens are technically not supposed to be here, I think I will overlook the differences as not very important.
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posted on
04/08/2002 3:23:55 PM PDT
by
monday
To: Phantom Lord
"Since you seem to believe that his breaking of our immigration laws (and many employment laws, and other laws) is not all that bad and should be over looked, "Read my post again. No where did I say that the laws he broke should be overlooked. He broke the law and will have to pay.
"So, what laws do I get to break?"
I am curious, what laws are you so eager to break?
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posted on
04/08/2002 3:28:19 PM PDT
by
monday
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