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To: Orual
Those who argue for marriage for priests simply do not understand the sanctity and holiness of the vocation, and the duties that attend to it.

We are ALL called to sanctity and holiness, Orual, not just priests and those in orders.

Your implication seems to be that celibacy is the only way one can reach perfection.

Also, I sense a little "sex would sully" tone to your post, as if relations with a woman would somehow detract from the priesthood.

Putting aside the fact that a priest has not the time nor the finances to support a wife and children and that such a relationship would be doomed from the start,

Clearly not, as Eastern Rite and Lutheran and Episcopalian converts to the priesthood attest.

43 posted on 04/07/2002 3:27:25 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Also, I sense a little "sex would sully" tone to your post, as if relations with a woman would somehow detract from the priesthood.

You suspect correctly.

As you noted, there are Orthodox Rites which allow marriage, if a priest wants to marry, he should join a rite that permits it. If the Novus Ordo permits converted married priests, then he should become a Novus Ordo priest. No problem there.

50 posted on 04/07/2002 6:06:11 PM PDT by Orual
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To: sinkspur
I forgot to include this in my previous reply:

We are ALL called to sanctity and holiness, Orual, not just priests and those in orders.

Please, sinkspur, get real. If you think you are on a equal basis of sanctity and holiness with a priest, then you possess an arrogance beyond my comprehension. You know exactly what I mean - priests are held to a much stricter standard of behavior than we are because their work is to inspire us to become the best we are capable of, hopefully, by setting a perfect example for us. We follow, they lead.

51 posted on 04/07/2002 6:12:22 PM PDT by Orual
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To: sinkspur;Orual
In post #43,
…We are ALL called to sanctity and holiness, Orual, not just priests and those in orders.

Yes and no - as stylish folks like to say.
Yes, we are all called to holiness, but there is a very clear hierarchy, very different expectations. Much will be required of the person entrusted with much, and still more will be demanded of the person entrusted with more (Lk 12,48). Simon, I have prayed that your own faith may not fail; and once you have turned back, you must strengthen your brothers (Lk 22,32). Authority in the Church, contrary to feminazi concepts, is for the service to others. Leaders of the Church have been entrusted much, and much will be expected of them. And here is something that may help you understand the difference: fathering an out of wedlock child by a Pope creates more stir, and rightly so, than any other illegitimate fathering. I hope this will help.

In post #55,
…I don't follow any priest. I'm as educated as most of them, and have more life experiences than many of them.

Whoever listens to you listens to me. Whoever rejects you rejects me. And whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me (Lk 10,16).
Be careful what you reject and attack. And read your Bible. It's good for you. It's actually much better than Rahner.

60 posted on 04/08/2002 8:29:56 AM PDT by heyheyhey
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