Celibacy of the priesthood is a church strength, not a liability

Mpls (red) Star Tribune ^ | 4/3/02 | Katherine Kersten

[IncredibleHulk]

I was quite seriuos when I said I could learn more asleep than aruaun could awake. As a lucid dreamer for my whole life, I can fall asleep and not even realize it until someone tells me. Yet I have full knowledge of everything that transpired while I was asleep. It is often very embarrasing, especially when people talk about you knowing you are asleep but not realizing you are fully conscious but unable to move.

The term lucid dreaming was coined by the Dutch psychiatrist Frederik van Eeden in 1913. It is something of a misnomer since it means something quite different from just clear or vivid dreaming. Nevertheless we are certainly stuck with it. Van Eeden explained that in this sort of dream "the re-integration of the psychic functions is so complete that the sleeper reaches a state of perfect awareness and is able to direct his attention, and to attempt different acts of free volition. Yet the sleep, as I am able confidently to state, is undisturbed, deep, and refreshing." This implied that there could be consciousness during sleep, a claim many psychologists denied for more than 50 years. Orthodox sleep researchers argued that lucid dreams could not possibly be real dreams. If the accounts were valid, then the experiences must have occurred during brief moments of wakefulness or in the transition between waking and sleeping, not in the kind of deep sleep in which rapid eye movements (REMs) and ordinary dreams usually occur. In other words, they could not really be dreams at all. This presented a challenge to lucid dreamers who wanted to convince people that they really were awake in their dreams. But of course when you are deep asleep and dreaming you cannot shout, "Hey! Listen to me. I'm dreaming right now." All the muscles of the body are paralyzed. It was Keith Hearne (1978), of the University of Hull, who first exploited the fact that not all the muscles are paralyzed. In REM sleep the eyes move. So perhaps a lucid dreamer could signal by moving the eyes in a predetermined pattern. Just over ten years ago, lucid dreamer Alan Worsley first managed this is in Hearne's laboratory. He decided to move his eyes left and right eight times in succession whenever he became lucid. Using a polygraph, Hearne could watch the eye movements for sign of the special signal. He found it in the midst of REM sleep. So lucid dreams are real dreams and do occur during REM sleep.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Uh, Paul was a church leader. Are you saying that he did not consider himself a leader? I think the danger in all of this is when you pick and choose the scripture quotes you like in order to support your personal agenda. What Paul is doing is taking a stand against polygamous practices, not commanding marriage. BTW, this is not a Catholic vs. Protestant argument. One of your Protestant bretheren illustrates this point beautifully over on the religious forum on the Charles Stanley thread.