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To: goldenstategirl
When I go to Church I go there to commune with Christ, not the people in the pew with me. Why do these priests and bishops have a problem with that?

Because "the people" are the Church. Christ is present in His Body, the Eucharist, AND His Body, the community.

Read "Lumen Gentium" from Vatican II. "Where two or three are gathered in My Name, there I am."

22 posted on 04/05/2002 8:21:53 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Yes, well and good. But I still don't want to spend my hour holding hands with strangers in the pew. My focus is Christ-centered and Eucharist-centered. There is plenty of time before and after Mass and in other Church activities to be in community with my neighbor. The fact that we all gather together at Mass is enough for me. BTW, I'm 35. Life post Vatican II is all I know. Strangely enough, something beyond my knowledge or memory pulls me to the Latin Mass.
23 posted on 04/05/2002 8:36:58 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: sinkspur
Read "Lumen Gentium" from Vatican II. "Where two or three are gathered in My Name, there I am."

Thank you for the quote from St Matthew.

I especially like the part about 'in My Name', rather than 'in My followers names'.

It puts the part about being gathered in the proper context: a focus on or direction toward Our Lord.
27 posted on 04/05/2002 8:52:12 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
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To: sinkspur
Because "the people" are the Church. Christ is present in His Body, the Eucharist, AND His Body, the community.

Misleading in that the modes of presence are "substantially" different. There is a transubstantiation of the Eucharistic elements into the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ our Lord. The "assembly" or the Body of the faithful, on the other hand, share in his presence not by virtue of transubstantiation of people but by the gifts of the Holy Spirit, the sacraments, the means of grace etc., et.al.

In writing this I realize how rusty my English is.

29 posted on 04/05/2002 8:53:05 PM PST by father_elijah
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