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Austin Police WON'T Arrest People Only For Immigration Status (would hurt trusting relationship..)
KEYE Texas ^

Posted on 04/05/2002 5:05:57 PM PST by chance33_98

Austin Police Won't Arrest People Only For Immigration Status


The U.S. Justice Department, which controls the Immigration and Naturalization Service, says it can't handle the 7 million immigrants currently in the U.S. Therefore, it is considering a proposal to allow local police to do their job for them. Nearly 8 months ago, 19 hijackers slipped through America’s immigration security net committing the most devastating terrorist attacks on American soil. Now, controlling immigration in America has become drastically more important. Austin police say adding immigration duties would undo the trusting relationship local police have built with immigrants. Police say illegal immigrants often do not report crime, for fear they will be deported. Austin Police Assistant Chief Rudy Landeros says, "Our officers will not, and let me stress this because it is very important, our officers will not stop, detain, or arrest anybody solely based on their immigration status. Period." Austin police say however, they will continue to cooperate with federal agents who have criminal warrants for illegal immigrants.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; immigrantlist
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To: Jhoffa_
"But of COURSE they will enforce Gun Laws and such, because that doesn't anger mexicans.. "

You bet, and if you don't pay your taxes on time to support all the criminal activity, your going to jail or worse.

61 posted on 04/05/2002 6:34:34 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: FITZ
I don't. I thought it was maybe a picture of an American answering his door to IRS agents because he failed to file an income tax return.

They are from Twin Peaks, Fire walk with Me. The agents were at the fat trout trailer park after visiting the local sheriff, who did not like the feds butting in to a murder investigation.
62 posted on 04/05/2002 6:35:12 PM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Does anyone, as an aside, know what movie the two photos I posted are from?

Since one of the photos was directed at moi, I'd better answer: no, and the movie title alone won't provide me with a punchline anyhow. In any event, I'm outta here; I seem to have taken a wrong turn at Albuquerque and stumbled into a nativist law & order convention. Sorry to disturb...

63 posted on 04/05/2002 6:36:48 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: Revolting cat!
They're not all here picking apples. BTW----did you read that lettuce is up to $4 a head? Here's what one of your non-apple picking illegals was up to:

Man charged in sex crime; girl, 12, may be pregnant

Illegal from Mexico here for two months, and he rapes and impregnates a 12 year old. And what would you bet the taxpayers are paying the expenses for his own 4 kids ---soon to be 5?

64 posted on 04/05/2002 6:37:09 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Joe Hadenuf
With the accumulated influx of illegal immigration, the amnesties, and so forth, the politocal offices, courts, law enforcement agencies, and everything else have become Mexicanized an in support of illegal immigration. It has evolved to the point that if there is to be control of immigration into this country we'll have to build a wall around Texas and California instead of on the shore of the Rio Grande. In five years Texas and California will be Mexican provinces. This seems to be George Bush's goal.
65 posted on 04/05/2002 6:37:33 PM PST by RLK
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Hey Baby.. You are preaching to the choir..

I am with thee.

Unfortunately, no one else is with us. We find ourselves in the hands of the globalists.

66 posted on 04/05/2002 6:37:52 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: RLK
Hey, but what happens if you break a Federal (pause for respect) gun law?

Will that be enforced?

67 posted on 04/05/2002 6:39:40 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Joe Hadenuf
But going door to door? Or questioning people on the street? I think that's what the border is for ---to check who is coming across at that point. Also going after the criminals who are hiring them would be more effective. It's easy for them now --they can have cheap labor and dump the costs onto the taxpayers ---if that incentive was taken away, they might think twice about it. Also end ALL welfare benefits including free lunch, free clinics, WIC, and food stamps and quit giving citizenship to babies being born here just for that purpose.
68 posted on 04/05/2002 6:40:54 PM PST by FITZ
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To: chance33_98
The cops have priorities on crimes. Let the INS beef up and handle immigration issues. If police in Austin start rousting all the illegal immigrants, guess how much help they are going to get for info on murders, rapes, etc... from illegal eyewitnesses.

If illegals know that the INS are out to get them, but the cops won't roust them, it makes the cops' job that much easier.

69 posted on 04/05/2002 6:47:08 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: CTYankeeMike
A determined group of Anaheim citizens with the aid of a councilman petitioned the "suits" in Washington and got permission to have an INS agent stationed in the Anaheim, CA jail.

Originally we asked INS to train a select number of local police to access their database via computer at the jail to check the legal status of ALL ARRESTEES. INS nearly had a stroke, so we said "okay give us an agent."

Why check residency upon arrest? Because when the Anaheim cops took the perp to court, the judge often let them out on their own recognizance (trust them to show up for trial without posting bail) That was a big failure! especially when they were here illegally.

Now the judge is advised in court "this guy's here illegally." The judge naturally holds them over in jail until trial. Many of the arrests were for drunken driving, burgulary, and sex offenses. By the way one of the illegals selling drugs in the city park was a RUSSIAN!! So EVERYONE IS CHECKED! NO PROFILING!

I think this is a practical approach: Make INS share their database and select certain cops to be allowed access. (Every shift commander and his relief man for example.) By the way, attach a salary increase for those qualified to check residency status and watch the cops "volunteer" for this new duty!

70 posted on 04/05/2002 6:52:40 PM PST by Nancy
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To: Tancredo Fan
Thanks for the ping...I will try to catch up on this later.:)
71 posted on 04/05/2002 6:54:42 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: Nancy

Heavens Nancy.. We might offend someone.

Oh my.. OH MY!

72 posted on 04/05/2002 6:56:01 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Nancy
Maybe Austin citizens can start spitting in their employees faces(Austin PD) Would their employees turn the other cheek at this?
73 posted on 04/05/2002 6:56:04 PM PST by cutlass
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To: chance33_98
"Assistant Chief Rudy Landeros"

Looks like we should check his papers!

74 posted on 04/05/2002 6:57:26 PM PST by BellStar
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To: Jhoffa_
Hey, but what happens if you break a Federal (pause for respect) gun law? Will that be enforced?

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You'll be declared a Branch Davidian who managed to escape from Waco, then surrounded and killed.

75 posted on 04/05/2002 7:01:35 PM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
I hate to be the one who causes waves, mind you..

But one could make the case for a double standard here.

...

76 posted on 04/05/2002 7:10:02 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: chance33_98
Citizens arrest? Certainly the sissie cops won't do it. That would require a direct action. They like to shoot people once fully armored and armed with machine guns, late at night or early in the morning!
77 posted on 04/05/2002 7:44:58 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Sounds to me like we need two police departments in Austin, one for U.S. citizens and one for non-citizens. Since this is city policy, I think the city needs to start planning on they will afford and run two departments.
78 posted on 04/05/2002 7:49:35 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Revolting cat!
I hope you and your side keep repeating these mythical mantra while you chew on your delicious apple a day which cost only 69 cents a pound thanks to that illegal immigrant picker from El Salvador.

That is quite a grandiose statement. There isn't a direct correlation between the cost of labor used to harvest produce and the final cost of produce at your local supermarket. In other words, if a grower had to start paying his produce pickers $6 an hour instead of the $3 an hour that he had been paying, that doesn't mean that the cost of produce to the consumer would double. By the same token, if the grower was able to start paying his produce pickers $1.50 an hour instead of the $3 an hour that he had been paying, that wouldn't mean that the cost of produce to the consumer would drop by 50%. There are several factors involved in determining the final cost of produce at the supermarket. The cost of labor is just one of them.

79 posted on 04/05/2002 8:00:14 PM PST by usadave
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To: AzJP
I have seen the attitude you describe before. I had a man tell me once that he would never buy a car with an automatic transmission, he didn't want Detroit doing his shifting for him. I'll bet he was from your town.
80 posted on 04/05/2002 8:00:52 PM PST by Ditter
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