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To: gumbo
Didn't the current intifadeh (however that's spelled) start right after the collapse of the last "summit," where Clinton tried to force Barak and Arafat into an agreement?

Yes, but it wasn't really Clinton's fault. Arafat had the whole thing planned well in advance. He wanted the intifada, the peace deal was just a convenient place to launch it from. Clinton allowed himself to be used by Arafat, and he refused to criticize Arafat, but he didn't start the intifada (he just didn't do anything to stop it).

11 posted on 04/05/2002 5:09:56 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: xm177e2
Twice you excuse clinton for his summit failure and then cite about three major mistakes he made which caused it.

Funny, you should be defending clinton so eagerly. Whatsup wid' dat? Finding a way to disagree with GW that important to you?

12 posted on 04/05/2002 5:19:42 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: xm177e2
Bushism du jour:"It wasn't all that long ago where a summit was called and nothing happened, and as a result we had significant intefadeh in the area"


President Bush sits in his pickup truck with British Prime
Minister Tony Blair after his arrival to the Bush ranch in
Crawford, Texas, Friday, April 5, 2002. Bush and Blair begin
two days of talk dominated by the rise of violence in the Middle
East. The war on terrorism, particularly Bush's plans for Iraq,
are also on the agenda as Bush hosts the America's closest ally
at his secluded Texas ranch. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

Well, if Arafat had it all planned, then Clinton played into his hand. So I agree with Bush (and Fleischer before he apologized): Clinton deserves blame.

13 posted on 04/05/2002 5:25:30 PM PST by gumbo
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To: xm177e2
"it wasn't really Clinton's fault"

I disagree, it was very much Clinton's fault. He engineered (via Carville's campaigning) Barak's election, because Netanyahu wouldn't have any part of him. He then proceeded to ram through a "peace agreement," which everyone knew full well Arafat was not going to honor. I'll never forget Albright's tackling Arafat as he walked out of the meeting, she and slick Willie were so pathetically desparate to get the peace agreement.

Clinton's self-serving political grandstanding set the stage for the "intafada," since the PLO interpreted Baraks's offer as weakness and proceeded to wage a nasty little war with childen as weapons, and brainwashed young adults as human bombs. After his failure to get what he wanted, Clinton spent the remainder of his term lobbying for the Nobel Peace Prize.

18 posted on 04/05/2002 6:12:29 PM PST by browardchad
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To: xm177e2
Yes, but it wasn't really Clinton's fault. Arafat had the whole thing planned well in advance. He wanted the intifada, the peace deal was just a convenient place to launch it from. Clinton allowed himself to be used by Arafat, and he refused to criticize Arafat, but he didn't start the intifada (he just didn't do anything to stop it).

"It's just about intifada, everyone does it!" Let's move on.

20 posted on 04/05/2002 6:44:05 PM PST by Chu Gary
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