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Smokers stock up before tax increase: 39-cent hike goes into effect today
Binghamton Press and Sun-Bulletin ^ | 04/03/02 | William Moyer

Posted on 04/03/2002 4:43:00 AM PST by Phantom Lord

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:55:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Psycho_Bunny
People die. I'd rather die of lung cancer at 60, than die in diapers and drooling all over myself at 85.

Huh? When you die at 60 from lung cancer you'll be drooling plenty.

Smoking is a stupid habit, and anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
21 posted on 04/03/2002 8:17:01 AM PST by Belial
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To: Belial
Being stupid is a stupid habit also.

I LIKE smoking.

22 posted on 04/03/2002 8:18:50 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Psycho_Bunny
So? People like snorting coke too. Smoking is a waste of time, money and vitality.
23 posted on 04/03/2002 8:23:01 AM PST by Belial
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To: Psycho_Bunny
I have to admit I'm puzzled by folks who want to abuse the bodies God gave them. Smoke if you want to. Some members of our families still. But after you're gone, you'll probably leave loved ones behind who'll always regret that you left sooner than you might have to otherwise, and who might wonder what they could have shared with you if you'd have kicked the habit.
24 posted on 04/03/2002 8:24:32 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Belial
If I tell you that you're oh-so-much better than me, will you bugger off?
25 posted on 04/03/2002 8:27:15 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: mewzilla
Get real.
26 posted on 04/03/2002 8:31:15 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Psycho_Bunny
I'm not better. You don't like yourself.
27 posted on 04/03/2002 8:31:43 AM PST by Belial
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To: mewzilla
Interestingly enough, none of them have ever smoked.
I have an anecdote as well...

My Great-Grandmother lived to 93 and still worked in her garden every day.

28 posted on 04/03/2002 8:31:54 AM PST by Grit
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To: Grit
My Great-Grandmother lived to 93 and still worked in her garden every day.

I smoke, and just built a 16' x 4' raised bed garden. Will the one cancel out the other?

29 posted on 04/03/2002 8:38:08 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Phantom Lord;All
There is a new and novel solution to smoking and kicking the habit.

www.tomjonesdrug.com

They are advertising the Nico-pop. Yes, this is correct. Lollipops in whatever flavor you want, laced with nicotine and sugar-free (splenda) for diabetics. It says you can take a few "licks" and store the Lollipop in the Fridgerator for future "fixes"...

No price, tho.

sw

30 posted on 04/03/2002 8:38:42 AM PST by spectre
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To: Belial
Give me a break...you don't know me. Shut up and stop being a freak.
31 posted on 04/03/2002 8:40:49 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Phantom Lord
I smoke, and just built a 16' x 4' raised bed garden. Will the one cancel out the other?


I'm not sure...I'm new to using anecdotal stories as a source of universal truth. The antis are much better at it than I am. We should ask them the rules.

32 posted on 04/03/2002 8:42:36 AM PST by Grit
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To: Grit
I have seen studies that show cigar smokers live longer than non-smokers. I also smoke cigars. So combining that with my new garden I could possibly live well beyond 100!

Reason given cigar smokers live longer is that they usually have higher incomes and lead more relaxed and less stressful lifestyle. True or not, who knows.

33 posted on 04/03/2002 8:53:50 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Phantom Lord
I can see several interesting scenarios that may unfold as a result of this.

First, when the State of New York realizes less revenue from tobacco taxes than it had expected, there will be pressure to close the "Internet loophole" that lets smart New Yorkers buy their smokes tax-free. You can't really expect a cut in the health programs the tax is supposed to benefit. Those are vital, don't you know?

Look for the Indian tribes to join the clamor for taxing Internet purchases, just as they do doubt celebrated this latest tax increase. Higher prices elsewhere will bring people to the reservation to shop.

Then there's the nightmare scenario.

Even after plugging the Internet loophole and putting a duty on imported cigarettes, tax revenues drop considerably because for whatever reasons people smoke less than before.

What would the State of New York's next move be to salvage its bloated health-care system?

You got it: Promote smoking.

34 posted on 04/03/2002 8:55:39 AM PST by logician2u
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To: Phantom Lord
www.loneoak.net
35 posted on 04/03/2002 8:56:55 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: mewzilla
So far the smokers in our families haven't made it that long.

Couldn't possibly have anything to do with heredity now, could it?

36 posted on 04/03/2002 8:58:01 AM PST by Just another Joe
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To: logician2u
I often ask niconazi's and lefties this question, they have yet to answer me...

Who is more addicted... Smokers to nicotine, or government to tobacco tax money?

While it is unlikely to happen, especially in the near to not so distant future, I would like to see the tobacco companies stand up and say they are not going to take it anymore and pull all their tobacco products from the shelves and cease selling their tobacco products in America. Combine that with my above question and who would be rioting, smokers or government? The shit would really hit the fan and it would be a pleasure to watch the government, federal and state, go into full blown cardiac arrest.

37 posted on 04/03/2002 9:02:11 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: mewzilla
Couldn't folks just use the increase as an added reason to quit?

Somehow, the realization that someone is trying to FORCE me to do something I didn't make up my mind on my own to do, just makes me more stubborn. And I'm not so very different from a lot of other folks. It gives me an added reason to grow my own and to encourage others to do the same.

38 posted on 04/03/2002 10:38:44 AM PST by Max McGarrity
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To: Gabz
the question of the day at MSNBC is "Are Smokers Being Treated UnFairly?" of course the answer is a resounding no - except for the nanny do-gooders.

Hey, Gabz, I just wrote them (cable@msnbc.com)...wonder if they'll read MY letter. Somehow I doubt it. Hehehe.

39 posted on 04/03/2002 10:46:15 AM PST by Max McGarrity
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To: Phantom Lord
Somebody hand me those Marlboros.
40 posted on 04/03/2002 10:50:41 AM PST by babylonian
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