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To: hsmomx3
Whatever happened to parents taking charge of their kids?

It's not US this is aimed at; this is aimed at the horrible parents of children who don't parent like we do; and if WE don't teach them our values and standards, then the liberals will, you can bet that.

Two things you can count on; one is that there is no way to stop that money from being spent, so it might as well be spent the best way WE think it should be; and two, if we don't teach this kids to take care of themselves in the real world and to WANT to better themselves, then your children and my children and my grandchildren are going to have to pay MORE for them and their spawn in the future.

And remember one other thing: THEY are reproducing WAY FASTER than we responsible people are. Best to at least TRY to point them in the right direction, IMO.

19 posted on 04/02/2002 10:13:46 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I did some volunteer work at Head Start years ago, when I was in college. I was astounded at the number of 4-year olds who couldn't speak more than 100 words (nobody talked to them), couldn't count, couldn't function in a group.

They were not mentally defective, but they had been isolated from any input that would cause them to learn. It was very sad..their parents were just plain ignorant of how to do basic child raising.

The type of people this is directed to are the children who are parked in front of cartoons all during their waking hours, children who never see a book, never hear a nursery rhyme, in many cases are never spoken to. If they are not given some help, when they enter school they are doomed to failure from the first grade.

This cuts across racial lines, as many of the Head Start classes in my county are 100% white, children of parents who are CLUELESS.

I would rather the money be spent on this type of program, which has serious benefits and good results, than for the feel-good stuff that comes from some wings of the educational establishment.

The abolishment of the Department of Education is not an option at this time. Perhaps in 10 years, if we can demonstrate that standards and accountability matter to the students.

25 posted on 04/02/2002 10:27:29 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Howlin
It's not US this is aimed at; this is aimed at the horrible parents of children who don't parent like we do; and if WE don't teach them our values and standards, then the liberals will, you can bet that.

Do you really believe that government schools will ever be allowed to teach conservative values? Think that statement through. There is no way conservative values will be taught in the liberal machines that are public schools.

Two things you can count on; one is that there is no way to stop that money from being spent, so it might as well be spent the best way WE think it should be; and two, if we don't teach this kids to take care of themselves in the real world and to WANT to better themselves, then your children and my children and my grandchildren are going to have to pay MORE for them and their spawn in the future.

The suggestion that there is no way to stop the money from being spent seems to me you've already bought into the liberal way of life. That is the thinking that creates RINOs, that we cannot resist big government and the best we can do is mold it to fit our worldview. We are already defeated if we buy this reasoning.

The conservative response to the cesspool of the liberal government school system, in my opinion, is to protest the very idea that it is the government's responsibility to raise our children. Vouchers and initiatives that foster home schooling are far better solutions to this problem than merely capitulating and resigning ourselves to faulty ideals of liberalism and trying our best to dress them up in conservative terms.

28 posted on 04/02/2002 10:41:01 AM PST by BigTime
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To: Howlin
It's not US this is aimed at; this is aimed at the horrible parents of children who don't parent like we do; and if WE don't teach them our values and standards, then the liberals will, you can bet that.

The problem is, these programs always grow to include us. Educators will be running it, and the nonsense will flow our way.

One reason I took my daughter out of the public schools was because of all the condescending meddling justified by the educators to solve the problems created by other "bad parents."

That's the same barn door the sex education slipped through. More federaliziation isn't the answer.




36 posted on 04/02/2002 11:13:07 AM PST by Sabertooth
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