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To: TopQuark
the attack was a tragic mistake;...

And it kept being "a mistake" for five hours, and multiple waves of attack? Give me a ****ing break, man.

You accuse others of "ascribing to Jews every bad thing they can think of." I suggest that YOU will give Israel every conceivable break no matter WHAT they do. It is YOUR prejudice that is evident, not ours.

I am able to distinguish between JEWS--adherents of a particular religion--and ISRAEL, a secular state, a government like any other.

The attack on the Liberty wasn't made for religious purposes--"The Jews" were NOT out to get "American Christians" or whatever--but for POLITICAL purposes. The Israelis did not want the U.S. to know what they were up to--and some Israeli government officials may have even believed the U.S. was prepared to support Egypt.

So there is no reason to drag "anti-Semitism" (typically your only argument when you can't refute FACTS) into the debate.

As for the "investigations," they were bogus. LBJ--a man not known to be particularly worried about losing a few American lives for a political cause--decided that Israel would make a good hedge bet in the middle east against the growing Soviet influence among Arab states like Egypt and Syria, and so he went along with the charade.

The men who were there saw it quite differently, however.

43 posted on 03/31/2002 6:16:04 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
The men who were there saw it quite differently, however. And you were one of them?

I tried once more to involve you in a discussion, but your miond is closed like a door of an abandoned house.

I have said much more that issues relaetd to Jews and Israel. My main point was not related to Jews or Israel, but to the founding principles of this country.

You have not addressed it even with a word. I guess, this is waht your upbringing dictates: it's not the content of what is said, but the affiliations of the person who speaks.

Your position is at odds with the founding principles of this country, and you chose not deny that. That is a positive step.

As I said earlier, that was my last attempt, and I shall not write to you again. You will have to continue simmering in your narrowmindedness and hatred without me.

44 posted on 03/31/2002 6:48:12 AM PST by TopQuark
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