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To: Spar
Spar, we know that Islamists have a stronghold there. That is one of the problems one has in settling almost anything there.

But how can you deny and/or justify the massacre in Srebrenica? The existence of Muslim militants and terrorists justifies rounding up 8,000 people and slaughtering them?

31 posted on 03/30/2002 6:42:26 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
"The existence of Muslim militants and terrorists justifies rounding up 8,000 people and slaughtering them?

This is really a kind of stupid question Quark. Do you think this was a girl scout picnic or something ?? Who hides among their own civilian population and snipe at the enemy? Do US and/or Brit troops hide among their own non-com population ? Do Serb, Macedonian, Russian troops hide among their own non-com population ? HELL NO !! Muslim terrorists hide among their own people all the time. Because they cannot fight against real soldiers, they must hide among their own people in order to cause heavy civilian casualties on their own side in order to swing world opinion to their side. So it was at Sebrenca so that "sheep" like youself would continue to support islamic expansion in eastern europe. There are apparently 1.2 billion muslims in the world today. They have never lived in peace with anyone. It would not surprise me if at least half that number did not die before they learn to live in peace with their neighbors.

34 posted on 03/30/2002 8:16:00 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: TopQuark
The existence of Muslim militants and terrorists justifies rounding up 8,000 people and slaughtering them?

The number 8000 is greatly exagerated. I've heard from very reliable sources that the number of men summary executed is around 600. The 8000 number was a smoke screen to cover up the US aided Operation Storm in which over 200,000 Serbs were ethnicly cleansed from Krajina in one weekend.

I have several sources about Srebrenica that I'll post tomorrow. As for now, I have to get to work.

35 posted on 03/30/2002 8:30:46 PM PST by getoffmylawn
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From what I saw during the liberation of Srebrenica, after the fighting the Muslim men were released (women and children were allowed to leave long before).

What happened next was that Serbian irregulars either ignored or did not hear that the Serbian command had let the Muslims go free. What happened was that the Serb irregulars, mostly animated by a sense of revenge from what I could tell (due to the work of Oric's head hunting Mujis, no doubt) would shoot at the released Muslims as they retreated. For the most part the Serbian command lost control of their irregulars.

The cell phone conversation transcripts released by the Hague indicates this fact. Karadic is heard yelling at Mladic and demanding an explanation, Mladic is informing Karadic that he is doing his best to regain control of the situation, words to that effect, etc.

The reports that the Serbs rounded up the Muslims in batches, and killed them in the manner Nazi einsatzgruppen is a fiction. The numbers killed can not be confirmed but it is no where near the 10,000 first mentioned or the 8,000 currently mentioned. The most accurate figure is probably around 2-3,000, who mostly were killed by mortar or small arms fire in many places along the line of retreat.

What happened was very much like the Fort William Henry incident of the French and Indian War, when the French lost control of their irregulars (Indians) too.

Was it a massacre? yes. Was it pre-planned? no.

37 posted on 03/31/2002 1:30:17 AM PST by Spar
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To: TopQuark
8,000? Funny. I read about "6,000 killed men and boys" just the other day.
38 posted on 03/31/2002 3:22:08 AM PST by Banat
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